Founder's Breakfast Stout?

Discussion in 'Cellaring / Aging Beer' started by rmank, Jul 26, 2013.

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  1. rmank

    rmank Aspirant (265) Mar 26, 2012 South Carolina
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    What are your experiences with cellaring? How long should I let it go? Thanks
     
  2. beveritt

    beveritt Initiate (0) Apr 6, 2006 Ohio

    This one gets asked a lot and there seems to be no consensus. I love it aged. I have some in the cellar from as far back as 2008 and really enjoy it. If you really enjoy the coffee flavor, you may not like it aged, as that will fade.

    As someone else pointed out in another thread about this, the nice thing about this beer is that it is pretty available so easy to compare.

    My suggestion; buy a four pack. Drink one and put the rest in the cellar. Drink #2 at 6 months, #3 at 12 months and #4 at 18 months. If you like where it was going, get another four pack and go longer.
     
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  3. garymuchow

    garymuchow Poo-Bah (2,750) Aug 31, 2001 Minnesota
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    I've found it a fairly good beer to tuck away and enjoy over time. Others are better, but it's not too bad.
     
  4. bramsdell

    bramsdell Aspirant (278) May 27, 2011 North Carolina

    I like it best fresh. Loses a lot of the coffee and chocolate flavors after a year.
     
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  5. r0nyn

    r0nyn Initiate (0) Aug 1, 2009 New York

    My cousin and I recently opened a 2008 bottle. It was very chocolatey and really creamy, which isn't too shabby for a nearly six-year old beer.
     
  6. beercanman

    beercanman Initiate (0) Dec 17, 2012 Ohio

    I just opened one with about 9 months on it and it didn't even touch it. Very good.
     
  7. lotsaswigs

    lotsaswigs Initiate (35) Jan 24, 2006 Indiana

    My take is that is changes from a coffee smack in the face to a more chocolatey beer with a good coffee flavor still present after about a year give or take a few months. It stays pretty good for quite some time, but after about 2 years my experience has been it starts to really thin out at that point, though can still be enjoyable. I've had 4-5 year old bottles I thought were pretty bad, but I also just recently had one from 08 I believe that was still pretty tasty and believe it or not still had a very noticeable coffee component.

    Overall if you're interested in seeing what the cellar will do to this one it's a very low risk/cost endeavor to through a few in the cellar. But if you only have a couple and are hoping to hold on to it for the optimal time of enjoyment, it doesn't really improve per se with age IMO...
     
  8. otispdriftwood

    otispdriftwood Crusader (736) Dec 9, 2011 Colorado
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    Last night I cracked an FBS bottled 9/12/12, purchased 3/14/13 and given a good home in a fridge since then. Like lotsaswigs, I believe it had lost some of the coffee flavor and it's one of the reasons I really like this beer. I have one more bottle left and I'm waiting to see it again, buy a fresher one and do a side-by-side.
     
  9. Stevedore

    Stevedore Poo-Bah (3,504) Nov 16, 2012 Wisconsin
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    I just had 8 month old FBS (my last one) the other day and it was delicious. Less of the coffee, more of the chocolate. I really dug it, and I am a huge coffee drinker. You might as well go look for some in the cooler at your lesser traveled liquor store that carries Founders, anyway.
     
  10. rmank

    rmank Aspirant (265) Mar 26, 2012 South Carolina
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    Supply isn't the issue, I have at least 5 left in my stash. Thanks for the info
     
  11. Stevedore

    Stevedore Poo-Bah (3,504) Nov 16, 2012 Wisconsin
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    Yep, I mentioned that because you should be able to find more FBS that's already cellared if you fancy it.
     
  12. rmank

    rmank Aspirant (265) Mar 26, 2012 South Carolina
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    Good point!
     
  13. UCLABrewN84

    UCLABrewN84 Poo-Bah (12,114) Mar 18, 2010 California

    Much better fresh.
     
  14. Jacob007

    Jacob007 Aspirant (217) Sep 18, 2012 New Hampshire
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    Just picked up two four packs bottled in December.
     
  15. deadonhisfeet

    deadonhisfeet Meyvn (1,472) Apr 23, 2011 Kentucky

    This person seems to really like it aged - LINK
     
  16. starkmarvelo

    starkmarvelo Disciple (370) Jan 20, 2010 Texas
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    KBS sits in a barrel for a year and tastes great, no? So why not FBS, coffee might drop off but I bet the chocolate will still be there.
     
  17. Roger85

    Roger85 Devotee (409) Aug 24, 2012 Illinois
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    Just had one of last years release yesterday and it is still fantastic. Like others have said- less coffee and more chocolate. I found it very good. I have a few left I plan on sitting on even longer.
     
  18. kdb150

    kdb150 Devotee (456) Mar 8, 2012 Pennsylvania

    If you don't mind beer that tastes like a weak-ass cup of coffee, throw this one in the cellar for a while.
     
  19. tx_beer_man

    tx_beer_man Initiate (176) Jan 22, 2013 Texas
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    Yep, fresh. Losing the coffee and chocolate flavors...why would anyone want that!!??!?!
     
  20. justforrazors

    justforrazors Initiate (0) Feb 16, 2013 Missouri

    Honestly, I have never had it fresh, but recently picked up a 4 pack tucked away in the corner of a BMC beer cave, the FBS was from January of this year. I thought it was absolutely awesome with 8 months on it, although I have nothing to compare it to.
     
  21. Massbmx

    Massbmx Devotee (414) Apr 5, 2011 Massachusetts
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    Founders says KBS isn't just barrel aged FBS but a different recipie.

    I usually let FBS sit for a few months before I drink it, I've had it up to 2 years old and it was still awesome but like someone mentioned it seemed to be thinning out a bit.
     
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  22. ABN_918

    ABN_918 Initiate (0) Sep 1, 2013 Indiana

    Does aging really make a difference? I've tried to, but, I can't keep my hands off it!
    If so, how long?
     
  23. Sean227

    Sean227 Initiate (145) Sep 2, 2007 New Jersey

    I personally prefer it fresh, the coffee falls off a lot when aged imo.
     
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  24. carteravebrew

    carteravebrew Zealot (501) Jan 21, 2010 Colorado

    I think it does.

    I know I'm definitely in the minority on this, but I don't really care for FBS that much, but I when I had one that had been in my cellar for about 2 1/2 years, it was a lot better than any other time I've had it. YMMV
     
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  25. Danny1217

    Danny1217 Champion (846) Jul 15, 2011 Florida
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    I would never age a coffee beer, but that's because I like to drink beer the way the brewer intended it with the full coffee flavor (and I like my coffee). Besides, why wait to age a beer when it tastes amazing fresh?
     
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  26. Hdredfern

    Hdredfern Initiate (0) Feb 16, 2012 Texas

    Depends on who you talk to, 6 months+
     
  27. nickapalooza86

    nickapalooza86 Initiate (0) Feb 23, 2010 Wisconsin

    Do you like Coffee? Drink it fresh. More of a Chocolate, roasted malt king of guy? Age it. Simple as that!
     
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  28. BottleCaps80

    BottleCaps80 Zealot (592) Jan 12, 2013 Iowa
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    I wonder if this is a thread about this yet?
     
  29. TequilaSauer

    TequilaSauer Initiate (0) Dec 31, 2006 Florida

    I had a 2012 FBS about 2 weeks ago and I didn't detect much difference from my 2013s. So if you want the effect of the aging, it might need a good 2 years or so.
     
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  30. ABN_918

    ABN_918 Initiate (0) Sep 1, 2013 Indiana

    I love it fresh, it's one of my personal favorites, just curious of people's opinions. I'm just getting into "aging" beer, been at it with cigars for years. I'll probably buy a couple of singles to put away for 6 months or so to see the differences.
     
  31. hopsputin

    hopsputin Meyvn (1,015) Apr 1, 2012 New Jersey

    My favorite thing about it was that great coffee taste - fresh for me
     
  32. TequilaSauer

    TequilaSauer Initiate (0) Dec 31, 2006 Florida

    Yeah, as mentioned in here, coffee stouts lose more than they gain when aged, in my personal opinion.

    If you want a good aging beer that's not super hard to get, grab a Bell's Expedition 6 pack and lose it for 2-3 years. What you will find when you open one is nothing short of world class, and amazing with a cigar.
     
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  33. Daemose

    Daemose Devotee (426) Oct 3, 2011 Texas
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    I had an old bottle the other day that tasted amazing, but it also had a blob of crap at the bottom. YMMV.
     
  34. azorie

    azorie Initiate (0) Mar 18, 2006 Florida

    I had 2 beers UPS shipped to me years ago. I drank them both fairly quick. I had it on tap last Friday it was good fresh.
    When we get enough of it here the store has it on the shelf I will age 1 or 2 for a 6 month run and tell yea then.
    it supposed to be here now but my TW claimed ignorance, but I was not really insisting they check the back. I was happy with the porter. Which after trying everything they sent down here on draft, I liked it the best. (founders in Florida day last Friday)
     
  35. Ri0

    Ri0 Poo-Bah (2,358) Jul 1, 2012 Wisconsin
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    Going to make a poor mans CBS, by adding a spoon full of maple syrup to my glass. It's best fresh, but still delightful with a year on it.
     
  36. BottleCaps80

    BottleCaps80 Zealot (592) Jan 12, 2013 Iowa
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    :wink:
     
  37. Barrel_age_me

    Barrel_age_me Initiate (0) Dec 26, 2012 Ohio

    I don't understand the aging of Breakfast Stout at all. I think its garbage once it gets past 8 months. There is a reason why there is an exp date for that beer. It's not meant to be aged at all. When we reach the best by date we pull it off the shelves at bottle shops so customers can't have it in its inferior state.
     
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  38. mrcraft

    mrcraft Meyvn (1,318) Dec 15, 2012 California
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    I agree, this one I like to drink fresh when I get my hands on it.
     
  39. CValle1975

    CValle1975 Initiate (0) Oct 23, 2011 Virginia

    drink it fresh and enjoy! one of my favorite beers ever. so good. picked up another 4 pack today.
     
  40. BigAl723

    BigAl723 Initiate (0) Sep 20, 2006 Michigan

    Currently sipping one on tap in Ann Arbor. In my experience I would give fresh the edge by just a little bit. I love it aged but I also like my beers with a little kick. I feel some of the kick was lost after a year in the cellar.
     
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