Founders Contract Brewing All Day IPA

Weird thread about a lot of things completely unrelated to either Founders or Avery being partially owned by the same company and this merely being a smart business move to insure the distribution of fresh product to Founders left coast customers.
Carry on.

 

JUST MAKE A PALE ALE GOD DAMNIT! That's what the voice in my head screams every single time I see a session ipa

 

Agreed, but even then Pale 31 is a superior beer that comes in the same variety packs I still don't see a reason for a session unless you are tailgating and want to drink constantly all day. Hence "All Day IPA"

 

Man...I miss Pale 31.

 

They always retire the great pale ale before the shit ipa smh

 

Honestly, this site keeps me sane by being a place that is still fun to interact with other beer enthusiasts. The hype culture around beers (even when it is for my own beers on occasion) is such a bummer and has resulted in a bunch of shitty interactions in other corners of the beer world. This still feels like the site that hasn’t been infiltrated

 

When you are sitting on the beach at 95 degrees and sipping on All Day IPA, there is nothing better! You cannot drink 7-9% beers in the scenario I just described!

 

My only beef with contract brewing, when brewed out of state, is selling it under any sort of geographic pretense. It's a minor beef. However, for instance, if I bu a Sixpoint beer, I am in no way buying it because I'm a NYer, but I know people who do, and those people are being duped a bit.

 

You just need more practice

 

I started drinking bells consecrator dopplebock on a friends boat once. After a couple of those I knew it was a bad idea. Switched to something lighter. All day would have been a better choice.

 

I get the hate, but All Day definitely has its place. If I'm at a hockey game, some dive bar, out kayaking, it's definitely the beer I reach for. And fact of the matter is none of the casual craft community could give a rats ass which production facility their tasty hop water is coming from.

 

Founders All Day IPA on sale currently in North Carolina at Lowe's Foods for $12.79 per 15 pack! Great light hoppy beer.

 

I may have believed there was a loss in quality in SN at one point maybe 5 years ago, but I'm pretty sure it was merely because I was being a dork. I'd be a lot more worried about breweries quality in smaller operations who are relying on spot buys for many of their hops, and are also scaling up while also entering markets than I would ones that have the money to spend and aren't taking any additional debt on to better take care of their existing markets.
I'd also be more worried about quality at places that don't take care of their staff, or need to be castigated online to treat them better.

 

Guys, this is all very calculated. Avery had excess capacity, so no brainer for them. When you slap “brewed in CO” on the can it gives them immediate relevancy in an Uber local market. Combine that with chain retailers now having the ability to sell full strength beer. It’s a win win for both breweries who are financed by the same parent company. It’s called synergies.

 

Well that’s certainly not always true, there’s plenty of successes growing a business. Without a doubt Smuttynose and Green Flash are cautionary tales about over extending oneself. A lot just depends on ownership, when you start contract brewing or you change your methodology you leave a real potential for problems. See : NoDa here in Charlotte, win gold in Denver go to a centerfuge to increase production and you lose it. Never got it back.

 

Dale, if the centrifuge is truly the crux of the issue the brewery does have the option to simply not utilize the centrifuge they purchased.

What is the basis for your thought that the centrifuge is a problem? Did you read something where the brewers made comments upon this?

Cheers!

 

Since Founders is using capacity within the same (minority) ownership family, the risk of overextending is low, is it not?

Founders is a large (by craft standards) national (or near national) production brewery and All Day is their highest volume beer. Brewing that under contract at another large production brewery is a far different situation than a small brewery trying to scale up production. I think the risk to All Day's reputation and sales due to contract brewing at Avery is pretty low. Not zero, for sure, but pretty low in my estimation.

 

Founders is very well established, I really don't see a much of a risk for them here, but any time you surrender control there's a risk, but yiu have to duplicate the taste profile exactly. To be honest the Alpine beers brewed by GF were not bad beers, but they didn't taste like Alpine beers, they missed the match and they lost that bet.