Fresh Beer Experience

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by GetMeAnIPA, Sep 17, 2019.

  1. GetMeAnIPA

    GetMeAnIPA Zealot (599) Mar 28, 2009 California

    Awhile back I got an Uber fresh Blazing World from Modern Times from their brewery and it was amazing! I already love the beer but I was getting additional hop flavors and aromas that I normally don’t pickup. Just now I picked up a super fresh six pack of Saint Archers IPA, which you can agree or disagree on the merits of the beer but due to specific circumstances I ended up with a six pack. It’s by far the best saint archer i’ve Had. The hop
    Aroma and flavor is so fresh and vibrant, it’s like a fresh bag of hops from my homebrew shop.

    What beer/s have you had previously that you thought was ok, good or really good until you had fresh and it took a leap forward in your opinion once you had it fresh?

    While, my examples are ipas/hops related. I know many beers are impacted from freshness.
     
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  2. AZBeerDude72

    AZBeerDude72 Poo-Bah (1,792) Jun 10, 2016 Arizona
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    Deschutes Fresh Squeezed. If you drink it when really fresh the beer is amazing. Then drink old and well no so much.
    Fresh is best, why I always harp for dates lol. Just tastes better when new.
    Cheers
    :beers::beers:
     
  3. Bitterbill

    Bitterbill Poo-Bah (6,827) Sep 14, 2002 Wyoming
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    Fantastic on draught.
     
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  4. Bitterbill

    Bitterbill Poo-Bah (6,827) Sep 14, 2002 Wyoming
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    Paulaner Original on draught is a revelation. Beats the hell out of old bottles. :wink:
     
  5. GetMeAnIPA

    GetMeAnIPA Zealot (599) Mar 28, 2009 California

    My bucket list is to try my favorite imports fresh on location. Would love to try paulaner original fresh. I already like the beer and I am sure it’s 2/3 if what it should be.
     
  6. GetMeAnIPA

    GetMeAnIPA Zealot (599) Mar 28, 2009 California

    I guess that’s why they call it fresh squeezed. :wink:

    I actually got to try it fresh at deschutes a couple years ago during a summer vacation to bend, OR. It was fabulous. I always liked the beer but thought it was a bit too malt forward. Fresh the hops shine over the malt.
     
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  7. benzodrums

    benzodrums Initiate (113) Feb 19, 2015 Texas
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    Fresh Ruination 2.0 is noticeably better than at 4-6 weeks. Same for Alpine Duet..
     
  8. AZBeerDude72

    AZBeerDude72 Poo-Bah (1,792) Jun 10, 2016 Arizona
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    I feel the same way.
     
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  9. mambossa

    mambossa Disciple (388) Jun 30, 2015 Ohio
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    funnily enough, I find coffee stouts packaged fresh or draft from the source are infinitesimally better. Some instances I’ve been totally floored by the difference. I guess the volatile oils in roasted coffee beans have a similar lifespan as hops in terms of flavor.
     
  10. BaseballNBeer

    BaseballNBeer Initiate (114) Apr 22, 2015 Michigan
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    Came here to say Founders Breakfast Stout is decisively better when it's fresh. And it falls off rather quickly for a stout. Maybe 3 months?

    Looks like @mambossa would agree.
     
  11. jakecattleco

    jakecattleco Poo-Bah (2,095) Sep 3, 2008 California
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    From MT both Blazing World and Aurora (RIP) are out (Fn) standing when hyper fresh, and I get far more dimension from Fortunate Island when its less than 3 weeks old. A couple others that have added dimension for my palate and preferences when super fresh are Fall River Hexegenia and Block 15 Stick Hands (though this one falls off slower).
     
  12. Premo88

    Premo88 Poo-Bah (1,828) Jun 6, 2010 Texas
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    Yessir! from Community Beer Co. might be the best grapefruit bomb I've ever had. I got a half-growler from a well-respected beer bar having no expectations and was blown away.

    https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/30949/222862/?ba=Premo88#review

    And Shakesbeer, a bitter served at The Garrick in Stratford-upon-Avon. I had tried 12-15 different cask ales over the week before running into Shakesbeer, which I didn't even want to try because what a stupid name. :crazy_face::crazy_face: But without question Shakesbeer was the No. 1 cask ale I tried during that vacation, and I'm sure part of it was the freshness of that particular cask ... it almost crunched with crispness and had that perfect punch of earthy bitterness. Had to be fresh, like inside 24 hours fresh.
     
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  13. BeastOfTheNortheast

    BeastOfTheNortheast Devotee (405) Dec 26, 2009 Pennsylvania

    Pizza Boy Sunny Side Up while fresh is amazing. Once it hits about the 2- month mark, I notice the coffee in it starts to become bitter.
     
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  14. invertalon

    invertalon Crusader (777) Jan 27, 2009 Ohio
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    Probably the German imports... The Kölsch in Cologne and the big names in Munich (Paulaner, Ayinger, Augustiner, Weihenstephaner, etc...).

    I've been lucky to find some examples fresh enough to be close, but drinking them on site was next level.
     
  15. nc41

    nc41 Poo-Bah (1,938) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    Most of the ipas I buy are around 2-3 weeks for the most part, they’re primarily local beers, the exception is Two Hearted.

    I’ll agree with the above about Fresh Squeezed, we get it here but its forever 7-8 months old and I won’t buy it. But I have had it on tap in WA and it’s a completely different beer. I’ll also add Highlands ipa here too, it’s from Highland in Asheville I think, I get it on tap and it’s really a tremendous ipa. In cans it’s meh, if it’s 4-5 weeks old, those few weeks difference is simply amazing.
     
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  16. TheEpeeist

    TheEpeeist Devotee (428) Nov 5, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    Jai Alai falls off quickly. Nugget Nectar isn't bad after a month or so but a different beer when fresh.
     
  17. GetMeAnIPA

    GetMeAnIPA Zealot (599) Mar 28, 2009 California

    I live in Southern California so I don’t get Hexegenia. I visit my friend in Nor Cal occasionally and I had the same experience with Hexegenia. First time I had it I thought it was meh. This year visiting my buddy he had a fresh four pack. It was almost like a different beer. Classic west coast IPA and the hops were popping. After my first few sips we both commented on how it was hitting the WCIPA profile perfectly.
     
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  18. Ranbot

    Ranbot Champion (875) Nov 27, 2006 Pennsylvania
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    Drinking Sam Adams Boston Lager at the brewery was eye-opening for me. I never got the same hoppy snap from a Boston Lager prior to or after that experience.
     
  19. JayORear

    JayORear Meyvn (1,103) Feb 22, 2012 New York
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    Guinness at the source was mind-blowing.
     
  20. herrburgess

    herrburgess Meyvn (1,100) Nov 4, 2009 South Carolina
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    Once decided -- after having passed through so many times on the way from Bamberg to Prague -- to make an overnight stop in Pilsen. The first place my buddy and I went to after checking into our hotel was a tiny beer garden just downriver from the Urquell brewery. This was 1994, so before they had made the switch to a simpler yeast strain and begun lagering in steel. The first sip of that super-fresh Urquell while looking upstream toward the source was as good a beer experience as I've ever had. The 6 or so additional half liters weren't too shabby either.
     
  21. ScaryEd

    ScaryEd Poo-Bah (1,943) Feb 19, 2012 New Hampshire

    Having fresh Sculpin on draft in Vermont, roughly 5 years ago.

    I don't believe Sculpin was available in NH at the time, and the only bottles of Sculpin I could find (also in Vermont), were at least 2 months old. Not "old" by any means, but not exactly fresh either. And they were always sat warm on the shelf.

    Oh man. That draft pour changed me. One of the best IPA's I'd ever had at the time. I got another one right after. So good.

    On the flip side, right across the street I had a pour of 3 year old Bigfoot. At that point I was against aging beer, but that definitely changed my mind.

    God I love Vermont.
     
  22. jamshard2mash

    jamshard2mash Initiate (78) May 4, 2017 California
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    Pliny aged for a couple years. In all seriousness, most IPAs are night and day before and after a month canned IMO. My significant other looks at me like a fiend while looking through the bottom of all cans at the store.
     
  23. Amendm

    Amendm Zealot (575) Jun 7, 2018 Rhode Island
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    Recently I enjoyed my first brewery fresh Hefeweizen, now I know there are better Hefes in this world, but I was knocked out by how sparkling fresh the hops and other ingredients were. Prost! Bavarian Hefeweizen by CraftRoots Brewing in Milford, Mass.

    Went to Tree House last year and had my first brewery fresh turbid juice bombs and really enjoyed them. Not knocking TreeHouse but they are an hour+ away and there are dozens of closer breweries.

    The point is, clean your growlers and growlettes and hit your local brewery if you want freshness.
     
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  24. rgordon

    rgordon Savant (973) Apr 26, 2012 North Carolina

    That's Highlands AVL West Coast Style IPA. I love it! Also around here and generally very fresh is Foothills Jade. That is a tasty and sneaky draft beer. Goes down so easy....
     
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  25. AccipiterofBeer

    AccipiterofBeer Initiate (168) Nov 28, 2016 New York

    Fresh Sip O Sunshine is really something else. I also live close to Industrial Arts, Wrench fresh is a real treat.
     
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  26. nc41

    nc41 Poo-Bah (1,938) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    I had the Highlands at Barleys in Asheville with pizza, but that beer figuratively exploded with flavor. Can’t say what I’ve had canned comes close to that beer on tap.
     
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  27. Junior

    Junior Defender (624) May 23, 2015 Michigan
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    It would be nice if some breweries would distribute to certain locations on a seasonal basis. A lot of regional breweries move into a new market, product is fresh and sales are brisk. Soon sales slow down and product ages. Then it seems to hardly move at all. If I see Jai Alai less than 6 weeks old I’d buy it usually closer to 3 months. Some story with many other beers. Last time I was in Chicago Psuedo Sue and Zombie Dust were stacked on the floor at 2-3 months old. It was kind of sad.
     
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  28. stevepat

    stevepat Crusader (766) Mar 12, 2013 California
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    I go on mini hex benders everytime a new batch hits us. It is amazing for about the first 30 - 40 days, then it is ok for a good while longer. Just drank one that was exactly 30 days from canning earlier today and I felt like I could taste the looming cliff (a hyperbolic beer nerd cliff that goes from great to the terrible depths of good)
     
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  29. seakayak

    seakayak Defender (666) May 20, 2007 Massachusetts
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  30. nc41

    nc41 Poo-Bah (1,938) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    Can’t remember last time I had a Jade, I really like Foothills beers, and the food at the brew house is also exceptional.
     
  31. mudbug

    mudbug Defender (600) Mar 27, 2009 Oregon

    A long time ago I was a QC supervisor for a bottle factory in So. Calif. I was sent to the A1 brewery in Phoenix (long since gone) They used our 40oz Mallox bottles for their A1 beer. Nice heavy bottle that could take pressure. In their break room was fresh unpasteurized A1 beer. The difference was astounding. But remember, this was before craft beer except for Anchor Steam, (which I also was sent to, but never got inside to the brewery), and possibly a few more. Later on it was certainly SNPA from donated 5 gal carboys at the San Luis Obispo Festival of Beers.Ah good times. But lately it's got to be Sticky Hands from Block 15.
     
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  32. billandsuz

    billandsuz Devotee (408) Sep 1, 2004 New York

    I have two memorable experiences related to fresh beer.

    1. Bavarian beer at the source is not something you should miss. If you haven't you need to go and experience drinking the most perfect beer on the planet. Until you move 3 km to the next town and do it all over again. If you have the chance you should inquire why the Helles in this town is so much better than the Helles in that town 3 km away. They will tell you, and they are right. It is beer heaven.

    2. Close second. Iceland, despite having only legalized beer in 1989 (wtf!?) has a really great beer scene. PFM.
    We visited Brehus Stedji in Borgarbyggd (and trust me, you stumble on these sort of places in Iceland... it is not a normal place...nothing is expected). Despite it being 4:45 and a posted closing of 5:00 the bartender/assistant brewer/owner was more than willing to sit around and talk shop. With a bus full of Icelanders singing drinking songs he apologized for not having everything on tap, then said well, why don't we just drink some beer from the bright tanks, out in the brewery? Reminded me of the US craft scene around 1990. A small group of like minded individuals who knew great beer was not only about recipes or process. Really great beer too.

    I'd do both again just for the beer.
    Cheers
     
  33. gatornation

    gatornation Poo-Bah (5,145) Apr 18, 2007 Minnesota
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    Agree ,and that IPA is always so much better on tap.
     
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  34. gatornation

    gatornation Poo-Bah (5,145) Apr 18, 2007 Minnesota
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    For me the one IPA that falls of the fastest is Sculpin.
     
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  35. nc41

    nc41 Poo-Bah (1,938) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    I don’t care for it personally, there’s far better options, never cared for Green Flash as well. But... I did like Grapefruit Sculpin straight up, and I liked to mix it with the Habanero too.
     
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  36. gatornation

    gatornation Poo-Bah (5,145) Apr 18, 2007 Minnesota
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    Might have been a time when my palate was different,but most likely it was B4 the sale of BP. Sculpin in the old label was just disto to Minnesota at about 12 days old, it was sublime. Sadly Sculpin is no longer the brew it once was.
     
  37. nc41

    nc41 Poo-Bah (1,938) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    I’m having trouble thinking of anyone here who thinks highly of Sculpin right now. Not likely there a mass palate shift, I’d guess it’s the beer.
     
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  38. gatornation

    gatornation Poo-Bah (5,145) Apr 18, 2007 Minnesota
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    I like this and wish more breweries would do the same. In Minneapolis we get Weldwerks,Hoof Hearted ,FFF, some limited Great Notion on limited drops its nicely fresh and sells out quickly it not a shelf brew and i like that.
     
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  39. SudsDoctor

    SudsDoctor Zealot (561) Nov 23, 2008 New York
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    FTFY. FYI, 'infinitesimally' means vanishingly small.
     
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  40. Bitterbill

    Bitterbill Poo-Bah (6,827) Sep 14, 2002 Wyoming
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    Is Masala Mama still a "thing"? I remember it impressing the hell out of me when I got a Growler in a trade.
     
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