Fresh beer. How fresh is fresh?

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by Reidrover, May 19, 2023.

  1. Reidrover

    Reidrover Grand Pooh-Bah (4,622) Jan 14, 2003 Oregon
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    I like my beers under a month old if I can get that.
    I really notice a difference after that, particularly in the hop forward styles.
    But on keg they seem to go off faster.
    Just tonight drinking a pint of Sunriver Pacific Playland IPA. Last week I had the fit two pints off a fresh keg. Absolutely gorgeous.
    Tonight it's just OK. Yeah keg is almost done.
    I shudder when I see IPAs 4 months old and still on the shelf at full price
     
  2. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,282) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    Bro, if the lid is seamed on the can, the beer is too old.

    Seriously though, I'm not a big nerd on age, so I don't generally worry about it.
     
  3. Resistance88

    Resistance88 Pooh-Bah (2,808) Apr 9, 2015 California
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    1 week for IPA anything after that it's a shell of itself no matter what anyone says.

    Good thing i don't care for IPAs and Stouts are good forever
     
  4. Orca

    Orca Grand Pooh-Bah (4,441) Sep 18, 2010 Washington
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    I don’t drink beer on tap enough, but every once in a while when I do I get a glass where the beer tastes alive. Like when you’re eating oysters and you can taste the ocean—but in a good way. That’s about as fresh as it gets for me.
     
  5. Reidrover

    Reidrover Grand Pooh-Bah (4,622) Jan 14, 2003 Oregon
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    I like stouts and porters also but the hotter months are here. Yes even in Oregon. Then I change to IPAs and APAs.
    Nothing like a nice cold fresh hoppy CLEAR IPA on a 90 degree day
     
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  6. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand Pooh-Bah (5,291) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    If it's a favorite hoppy beer I won't buy it unless it's newer than 4-6 weeks. I don't care as much, age-wise, for other hoppy beers that are new to me that I've been wanting to try, but 3 months is probably the max that I'll accept.

    I don't think I have a time limit on any other style, although I'll be cautious on any pale, light-flavored beer like an AAL, blonde, etc. (I don't buy them that often anyway; I like full-flavored styles.)
     
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  7. Resistance88

    Resistance88 Pooh-Bah (2,808) Apr 9, 2015 California
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    An IPA is the last thing i want on a hot day(or any day for that matter) ,in California we have Enegren for a hot day
     
  8. GetMeAnIPA

    GetMeAnIPA Pooh-Bah (2,535) Mar 28, 2009 California
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    I just had a 58 day old ipa that I got from Costco. I think the warm shelf really did the beer an injustice. Could be the beer or could be the hops. I’ve had plenty of good ipas older than 60 days. My general rule is 60 days for non refrigerated ipas and 90 for cold stored ipas.
     
  9. Reidrover

    Reidrover Grand Pooh-Bah (4,622) Jan 14, 2003 Oregon
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    I get it. But a nice lighter malt, higher hop IPA is good
     
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  10. Reidrover

    Reidrover Grand Pooh-Bah (4,622) Jan 14, 2003 Oregon
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    Maybe just spoiled up here as a mainly brewery and Taphouse drinker
     
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  11. Resistance88

    Resistance88 Pooh-Bah (2,808) Apr 9, 2015 California
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    IPAs give me headaches:confused:

    Not a joke either . It happens more times than not. Even if i hydrate
     
  12. Reidrover

    Reidrover Grand Pooh-Bah (4,622) Jan 14, 2003 Oregon
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    Just had a fresh new keg Ex-Novo Eliot IPA at my local.
    Extraordinary
     
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  13. GetMeAnIPA

    GetMeAnIPA Pooh-Bah (2,535) Mar 28, 2009 California
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    ideally I like 30 days for ipas that have been cold stored. I always look at the date and when debating between beers I always choose the fresher one. Unfortunately these days I find myself buying more and more beer when grocery shopping so I have to be less picky. Lucky the stores I shop at actually have a decent selection of beers. Some beers do hold up over time. Sierra Nevada beers seem to drink just fine 60 days vs 30. There are exceptions such as dankful ipa.
     
  14. GetMeAnIPA

    GetMeAnIPA Pooh-Bah (2,535) Mar 28, 2009 California
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    you’ve mentioned fresh kegs. How do you know how fresh they are?
     
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  15. GetMeAnIPA

    GetMeAnIPA Pooh-Bah (2,535) Mar 28, 2009 California
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    @Reidrover i’ll be in bend at the end of July for a family vacation. My cousin who’s a craft beer fan too will be joining me. We’ll be hitting up as many locals as possible. Look forward to some fresh NW ipas.
     
  16. Reidrover

    Reidrover Grand Pooh-Bah (4,622) Jan 14, 2003 Oregon
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    Place I drink at. Very small local pub. They usually change IPA kegs every 4 days. Now before that don't know. But if the keg is sealed should be fine.
    They only get NW Oregon IPAs
     
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  17. Reidrover

    Reidrover Grand Pooh-Bah (4,622) Jan 14, 2003 Oregon
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    Great. I might be in Bend about then. Probably camping.
    Let me know your itinerary
     
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  18. ramseye4

    ramseye4 Savant (1,246) May 14, 2010 Virginia

    Depends.

    If it’s something that’s like 9.99 for a six pack that I’ve had a million times like SNPA I usually don’t even look. It’s not as good old but it’s cheap enough and good enough that I don’t sweat it.

    For more expensive stuff like zombie dust I usually look to make sure it’s within 30 days and drink it fairly quickly.

    my bigger problem which is completely irrational is I’m a bit of a beer hoarder and I’ll try to save one or two of a particular beer I’ll buy “for later.” It makes no sense but case in point when I was given 12 heady toppers I had to force myself to drink them all over 3-4 weeks because if I didn’t I would have a couple of them just sitting there, being the one ring to my gollum, decomposing in my fridge just so I could say I still have some. It’s illogical and dumb and a bad habit I’m trying to break :smile:
     
  19. bubseymour

    bubseymour Grand Pooh-Bah (4,656) Oct 30, 2010 Maryland
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    I find 2-3 weeks after canning/bottling to be the sweet spot with IPAs. Sometimes within that first week they can be to “bright” as people call it. I can’t quite describe it but I know it when I taste it. More and more though I’m finding 2-3 mo old IPAs to be holding up better than in the past (say 5-10 years ago). Maybe brewers are figuring out methods to help with shelf life a little better or maybe it’s just me. For instance Jai Alai I used to notice a major drop off after 4 weeks, now it seems quite tasty 2mo. just for example. I’ve noticed the same with many murky NEIPAs as well (holding up longer).

    I think after 4 weeks IPA hops can start to become less aromatic and more muted but the old and “stale” taste rarely creeps in <3mo. Just from my experiences
     
  20. Tilley4

    Tilley4 Pooh-Bah (2,667) Nov 13, 2007 Tennessee
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    Where I live, if you can find an IPA fresher than a month or 6 weeks, it's fresh....the larger markets get first dibs and we get what's left...er do get some fresh Barrique drops but even those are becoming fewer and farther between...we are seeing lots of new beer come to the market but even those new products are usually 6 weeks old?
     
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