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Fresh IPA or Aged DIPA

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by Beertsipper, Dec 18, 2014.

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  1. Beertsipper

    Beertsipper Pooh-Bah (1,697) Nov 18, 2008 New York
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    The other day I brought home a sixer of Founders Centennial IPA. The date on the bottle was 11/29/14. I've never had a fresher IPA, so I purchased it. It was devine. Yesterday I cracked open a 2 year old Burton Baton. Virtually no alcohol, creamy, with enhanced notes of vanilla and butter. I couldn't decide which tasted better. They were both a 95 for me. Do you prefer any one of the above over the other? Fresh IPA or aged DIPA? I've had fresh BB and it was not as good over the aged. Consequently, I've had 5 month old Centennial, and the difference between the 3 week old was like night and day.
     
    #1 Beertsipper, Dec 18, 2014
  2. SeanBond

    SeanBond Pooh-Bah (2,892) Jul 30, 2013 Illinois
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    Well, Burton Baton is oak-aged and more intended for aging than your standard DIPA, I would assume. I would say fresh for both IPA and DIPA, personally. If I buy either, it's for the hops, and since hops fade over time, the fresher the better.
     
    #2 SeanBond, Dec 18, 2014
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  3. tkdchampxi

    tkdchampxi Pooh-Bah (2,473) Oct 19, 2010 New Jersey
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    I think the community will agree that there are very few DIPAs that are better aged... So, my answer is a resounding FRESH IPA
     
    #3 tkdchampxi, Dec 18, 2014
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  4. Dil_thebeerdrinking_do

    Dil_thebeerdrinking_do Savant (1,177) Jan 21, 2014 Georgia

    What he said ^
     
    #4 Dil_thebeerdrinking_do, Dec 18, 2014
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  5. mikeburd1128

    mikeburd1128 Maven (1,409) Oct 28, 2011 New Jersey

    Fresh. There's really no other answer.
     
    #5 mikeburd1128, Dec 18, 2014
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  6. Ranbot

    Ranbot Pooh-Bah (2,451) Nov 27, 2006 Pennsylvania
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    I always thought of Burton Baton as edging more into the old ale or barleywine territories... I like Burton Baton and other barleywines with some age for the hops to mellow out, so your experiences don't surprise me in the least. However, Burton Baton is a blend of an old ale and imperial IPA then aged on oak. As typical with Dogfish Head the beer doesn't fall squarely into any standard classification, which is fine, but it's probably not the beer to use for this comparison.

    Fresh Centennial... yes please
     
    #6 Ranbot, Dec 18, 2014
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  7. rather

    rather Initiate (0) May 31, 2013 California

    old dipas turn into barley wines I think that's common knowledge :wink:
     
    #7 rather, Dec 18, 2014
  8. lester619

    lester619 Initiate (0) Apr 17, 2009 Wisconsin

    The former. No question.
     
    #8 lester619, Dec 18, 2014
  9. kevanb

    kevanb Pooh-Bah (2,643) Apr 4, 2011 Illinois
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    As it's been said, Burton Baton is already an aged DIPA, and it does aged extremely well. I'd say you already made your point by saying that 5 month centennial and 3 week centennial is night and day, this is the norm.
     
    #9 kevanb, Dec 18, 2014
  10. Beertsipper

    Beertsipper Pooh-Bah (1,697) Nov 18, 2008 New York
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    Yeah, I've had 6 month old Double Trouble, and its fresh counterpart was much better. However, I prefer aged DFH 90 minutes over its fresher counterpart. I am thinking that maltier DIPA's seem to age better. In the past, I had a two year old Maharaja and it was a drain pour.
     
    #10 Beertsipper, Dec 18, 2014
  11. Tsar_Riga

    Tsar_Riga Grand Pooh-Bah (3,337) Sep 9, 2013 Minnesota
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    Burton Baton was designed to be good aged - DIPAs usually are not, and so the key elements that make them attractive as a DIPA are rarely those that improve with age.

    So fresh. Always fresh. Unless you have a beer that specifically says it has been aged or is designed to be aged (think Enjoy After).
     
    #11 Tsar_Riga, Dec 18, 2014
  12. PsilohsaiBiN

    PsilohsaiBiN Maven (1,473) Aug 10, 2010 New York

    Fresh IPAs are a no brainer, but Burton Baton is a great beer and example of a brew that changes remarkably.

    I've had it fresh from a sixtel and couldn't believe how bitter it was. I've also had 6 year old bottles that were smooth and amazing, kinda barleywinish.

    No one is gonna tell you to drink old IPAs, but there are definitely some oddities like Burton or Imperials that can change nicely with some age.
     
    #12 PsilohsaiBiN, Dec 18, 2014
  13. MostlyNorwegian

    MostlyNorwegian Pooh-Bah (2,024) Feb 5, 2013 Illinois
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    I have no idea what the nature of your question is because the two you mentioned are completely different beasts and they are not in competition with each other, and shouldn't be. One is in the 6% range and the other is in the 10% range. That should establish pretty well that you shouldn't put them in the same category for whatever it is you're doing. Now, old Centennial versus new Centennial is worth doing, because that makes sense. And, old Centennial is just that. Old Centennial.
     
    #13 MostlyNorwegian, Dec 18, 2014
  14. Johntomk

    Johntomk Zealot (678) Jul 22, 2014 Tennessee
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    Not to thread jack, but what if it is a Brett IPA? Would you guys age it at all? Is it just a trade off between strong hop presence and letting the Brett develop?
     
    #14 Johntomk, Dec 18, 2014
  15. Beertsipper

    Beertsipper Pooh-Bah (1,697) Nov 18, 2008 New York
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    Thank you for your expertise with the subject. :rolling_eyes:
     
    #15 Beertsipper, Dec 18, 2014
  16. VTBrewHound

    VTBrewHound Pundit (787) Jan 5, 2013 Vermont

    Well, I prefer a fresh DIPA, rather than a fresh IPA or an aged DIPA.
     
    #16 VTBrewHound, Dec 18, 2014
  17. RBassSFHOPit2ME

    RBassSFHOPit2ME Initiate (0) Mar 1, 2009 California

    My neighbor's daughter has a purple pony.
     
    #17 RBassSFHOPit2ME, Dec 18, 2014
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  18. ernieb

    ernieb Initiate (0) Jun 27, 2013 Illinois

    Yeah, I bought a 4 of Burton Baton yesterday, and they will not last long!
     
    #18 ernieb, Dec 18, 2014
  19. Techichi

    Techichi Pooh-Bah (1,769) Sep 25, 2012 Texas
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    Butter flavor in your beer is a good thing? :grinning:
     
    #19 Techichi, Dec 18, 2014
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  20. Omnium

    Omnium Initiate (0) Jan 31, 2013 Pennsylvania

    stop right there.
    buy fresh. /this thread
     
    #20 Omnium, Dec 18, 2014
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