Frozen Yeast

Discussion in 'Homebrewing' started by Providence, Jan 8, 2014.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. Providence

    Providence Pooh-Bah (2,652) Feb 24, 2010 Rhode Island
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    A family member got me a gift certificate to NorthernBrewer as a gift. I order up some ingredients to attempt an Edmund Fitzgerald clone (or some kind of porter at least) and they arrived today. As I assumed, the White Labs WLP013 was frozen solid.

    What are my options here? Defrost and pitch it? Toss it and buy a new yeast?

    Also, now that I thin of it, what impact will the freezing temps have on the 2 oz. of hops that came along with this delivery?

    Thanks in advance!
     
  2. Drankenstein

    Drankenstein Initiate (0) Jul 15, 2013 Kansas

    Hops are fine. Test the yeast by making a starter.

    /end thread
     
  3. jmdrpi

    jmdrpi Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,989) Dec 11, 2008 Pennsylvania
    BA4LYFE Society Pooh-Bah

    I'm no expert on yeast so I won't comment on that.

    But the hops are fine, most people (my self included) store their hops in the freezer to preserve freshness
     
    Providence and Drankenstein like this.
  4. leedorham

    leedorham Initiate (0) Apr 27, 2006 Washington

    If you have a B&M option to go buy a new vial, I'd just do that. It would probably cost you close to as much in DME to properly step up a good cell count as it would to just go buy another vial and do a starter from there.

    There is probably some live yeast in there but it's mostly gonna be dead. You could defrost and throw it in the boil as nutrient though.
     
  5. premierpro

    premierpro Savant (1,060) Mar 21, 2009 Michigan

    I once put yeast in my freezer instead of my fridge. I thawed it out and pitched anyway without a starter. After 3 days of no action I pitched some dry yeast.
     
    Providence and Drankenstein like this.
  6. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
    Pooh-Bah

    If it was really frozen solid, I personally wouldn't waste starter wort attempting to find out if there's anything left alive.
     
    sarcastro, Providence and PapaGoose03 like this.
  7. nolabrew

    nolabrew Initiate (0) Apr 20, 2010 Louisiana

    I agree with Vikeman, totally frozen yeast won't be salvageable.
     
    Providence likes this.
  8. Providence

    Providence Pooh-Bah (2,652) Feb 24, 2010 Rhode Island
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    Got my answer, thanks everyone. Mods, feel free to shut down.
    Thanks!
     
  9. mattbk

    mattbk Savant (1,111) Dec 12, 2011 New York

    Just to add to this - you can freeze yeast - it is done all the time - but there needs to be a cryoprotectant added to the wort - like glycerin or DMSO - to prevent the cells from dying during the freeze/thaw process. Not that this helps you in this case, sorry!
     
  10. HerbMeowing

    HerbMeowing Maven (1,295) Nov 10, 2010 Virginia
    Trader

    Next time be sure to consult with a cell culture meteorologist before ordering.
     
  11. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    Dead yeast is great nutrient...recycle ... and bust your retailer/shipper's balls while you're at it :slight_smile:
     
  12. kjyost

    kjyost Initiate (0) May 4, 2008 Canada (MB)

    If it was rare yeast, I would. I got some ECY04 Brett and my father in law plugged the chest freezer in bypassing the temp controller when he was doing some wiring for me, freezing my flask. I successfully revived it easily. Maybe Brett is hardier, I don't know.

    That said, it's cheap and easy to replace nearby, do it. DME isn't free.
     
  13. Pegli

    Pegli Initiate (0) Aug 30, 2006 Rhode Island

    Steve had a bunch of WLP013 yesterday (doing my porter on Sunday weather permitting so I grabbed one)...
     
    Providence likes this.
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.