Fruit on brett/bugs: how long do you like it to sit?

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  1. atomeyes

    atomeyes Initiate (0) Jul 13, 2011 Canada (ON)

    Just wondering what people like to do when they rack their beer onto fruit.
    I just made a Supplication-inspired clone (tasted it after 100 days and man, is it ever killer) and pitched the 5 gallons onto 6 lbs of sour cherries (with pits) and pinot noir-soaked oak cubes. Do I leave it for 2 months? 12 months? The longer means it becomes more complex, in theory. But won't it lose some true cherry flavour?

    Also, what temperature? Cellar temp (mine is 59 F) or fermentation temp (mid-60s)?
     
  2. jmich24

    jmich24 Initiate (0) Jan 28, 2010 Michigan

  3. skivtjerry

    skivtjerry Pooh-Bah (1,865) Mar 10, 2006 Vermont
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    As a rough guide, at least 3 months, but you really have to taste it periodically to get to just right.
     
  4. jamescain

    jamescain Initiate (0) Jul 14, 2009 Texas

    I recently racked one of my beers onto blackberries and I'm planning on at least 3 months but I'll probably taste it after two months to see where its at.
     
  5. OldSock

    OldSock Maven (1,418) Apr 3, 2005 District of Columbia

    My preference is to age a sour beer until it is pretty much done, and then rack onto fruit for 2-3 months (makes split batches easy too). Once the gravity stabilizes, I bottle. I'd rather have the option of enjoying the fruit flavor "fresh" and seeing how it ages, rather than missing the fresh phase entirely.
     
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  6. atomeyes

    atomeyes Initiate (0) Jul 13, 2011 Canada (ON)

    i was wondering what guys like Russian River did.
    got the impression that their secondary consisted of adding bugs and fruit to the barrel at the same time...which, for some reason, doesn't make sense to me. not sure why, but i feel like i want brett to do its thing before i add fruit.
     
  7. Xul

    Xul Pooh-Bah (2,139) May 18, 2008 California
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    Russian River uses dried fruit, so the issue of losing that fresh fruit character is moot for them. I don't recall the process for all of their fruited sours off-hand but I know for Supplication and Consecration, they add Brett to the barrel first and give it a head start of ~two months, then add fruit and bugs.
     
  8. OldSock

    OldSock Maven (1,418) Apr 3, 2005 District of Columbia

    Yep, dried fruit is a bit different.

    For Supplication/Consecration, RR does Brett and fruit at the same time after a clean primary, when the beer goes into the barrels. The house lactic blend a bit later. For something like Framboise for the Cure, the fruit goes in closer to the end.

    Luckily one of their brewers is serving as a tech editor for my book, so hopefully I've got the details on their process right! One of the things I'm most excited to get out there are the one page "process flow" diagrams for each of the breweries I profiled.
     
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  9. atomeyes

    atomeyes Initiate (0) Jul 13, 2011 Canada (ON)

    while i am jewish, i still wouldn't be offended if this aforementioned book somehow made it's way into my hands for the holidays :slight_smile:
     
  10. OldSock

    OldSock Maven (1,418) Apr 3, 2005 District of Columbia

    Assuming you are referring to National High Five Day, shouldn't be a problem. It's off to the copy editor Monday.
     
  11. Marshall_ofmcap

    Marshall_ofmcap Initiate (0) Jul 17, 2013 Colorado

    Little late for Yom Kippur
     
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