Full Mash Sours

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  1. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
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    Over the summer, I did a Berlinerweisse. I did a full mash sour and I fermented in the mash tun. It came out pretty rough, but this won't discourage me from doing more full mash sours. The process was a full mash sour with lacto, a light boil with hops, and a pure yeast pitch.

    I originally wondered what would have happened if I made a low ABV Dunkelweizen. I don't want to be restrictive. Has anyone experimented with full mash sours on other styles? I'm not against using a yeast blend, but I think I'm more interested in what I can do with some US05, Kolsch yeast, or a lager yeast to finish the batch off after souring.
     
  2. jbakajust1

    jbakajust1 Pooh-Bah (2,552) Aug 25, 2009 Oregon
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    An Oud Bruin could lend itself to this as it is a Belgian fermented Lactic beer, no Brett.
     
  3. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
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    I still don't know that much about the process of souring. Is lactic not used that often?
     
  4. hoptualBrew

    hoptualBrew Initiate (0) May 29, 2011 Florida

    Lactobacillus & Pediococcus mostly with some Acetabacter in styles that allow Acetic acid (think Rodenbach). It will be hard to produce a clean sour beer this way, biggest concern being ingress of oxygen.
     
  5. Daemose

    Daemose Maven (1,407) Oct 3, 2011 Texas

    It is, but it's slow, doesn't like hops, and most homebrewers are lazy.

    So instead of waiting a really long time to ferment, they add lactic bacteria pre boil and let it sour quickly.
     
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  6. Daemose

    Daemose Maven (1,407) Oct 3, 2011 Texas

    Or rather, impatient, not lazy.
     
  7. MCDForm

    MCDForm Initiate (0) Oct 13, 2010 California

    I sour worted a watered down belgian dubbel once. I watered a gallon of wort down to three gallons and did the same thing as a sour mash. It came out pretty good, it didn't taste like a mini dubbel but had hints of chocolate and banana with a light sourness. For this one I didn't pitch any lacto just a handful of unmilled grain at 110F. Boiled after two days and pitched US-05.
     
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