I had about a gallon of beer (wit beer aged in a barrel with cherries) left that wouldn't fit in the keg so I put it in an gallon 'carboy' and added some bretty dreggs from something (was drinking at the time, don't remember, maybe it was Rayon Vert?) anyway, it now has a white 1/4 inch krausen on top, but not a normal krausen, it kinda looks more fuzzy than usual. That's the pellicle, correct? Which is ok? Thanks
That would be my guess. Bretty dregs may lead to pellicles. In any event, not much you can do about it but enjoy the show, give it some time, and sample it when you are ready -- probably won't kill you!
I would find any amount of "fuzz" in my homebrew concerning. That being said, I would still sample it before dumping.
As Peter posted it is likely a pellicle formed by the Brett. I really like his statement of “enjoy the show”. Please report back on how this turns out. A barrel aged cherry Wit with Brett sounds awesome. This beer deserves a cleaver name. Cheers!
Would this concern you if you had intentionally added Brett? I can see where a 'fuzz' description could come from...
“I would find any amount of "fuzz" in my homebrew concerning.” Have you ever stepped over to the ‘wild side’? Brewing with Brettanomyces, Lactobacillus, Pediococcus will produce fermentation results different from just using brewer’s yeast. Cheers!
Looks extremely similar to how my cascade/vienna smash looked. Bottled it anyway, tastes fine, looks fine, for all I can tell it's normal beer. I assumed it was hop scunge that bubbled a little with CO2 coming out of solution. Hopefully I shouldn't be concerned....
THIS is what I meant by "enjoy the show!" My reaction is torn between gag reflex and utter fascination. The knowledge that I have enjoyed Brett beers and sours is what gets me past the gag reflex. Single malt and single hop and... double yeast? As in Brettanomyces and Saccharomyces varieties?
I seriously want to pop that big bubble in the middle... with my tongue. Put me in the latter camp of utter fascination. My last flanders looked absolutely disgusting in the carboy (chunky vomit & mayonaise) and then wispy, roapy snow in the barrel.
I guess the term fuzzy looked different in my head (more like mold), i would expect this if i intentionally added brettanomyces or lacto. The picture above is a bit more extreme than anything I've seen in my batches but i'm fairly new to the game when it comes to wild. That being said i would not expect the dregs from a Rayon Vert to produce this.
“ …i would not expect the dregs from a Rayon Vert to produce this.” Why? Rayon Vert is brewed using Brett. Brett is capable of producing a pellicle. Cheers!
I haven't had much luck from using the dregs of a single bottle of beer with brett, without making a starter. I guess it's certainly conceivable, given that this was only a 1 gallon. In spending the last half hour looking at pictures of extreme pellicles, i guess "fuzzy" is the best way to describe it.
I usually describe it as "powdered sugar layer floating on top of beer" if it is not all bubbly like the pic above.
Thanks for all your help. It was a few bottles worth of dregs. I'll take a picture on Monday to show you guys but it did look like the picture posted earlier but it seemed more white and thicker
What? And risk infecting the beer? Seriously - The imagery produced by your comments will keep me chuckling for the entire weekend.