Fuzzy

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  1. Timmush

    Timmush Pundit (931) Jan 5, 2008 New Jersey

    I had about a gallon of beer (wit beer aged in a barrel with cherries) left that wouldn't fit in the keg so I put it in an gallon 'carboy' and added some bretty dreggs from something (was drinking at the time, don't remember, maybe it was Rayon Vert?)
    anyway, it now has a white 1/4 inch krausen on top, but not a normal krausen, it kinda looks more fuzzy than usual. That's the pellicle, correct? Which is ok?
    Thanks
     
  2. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    That would be my guess. Bretty dregs may lead to pellicles. In any event, not much you can do about it but enjoy the show, give it some time, and sample it when you are ready -- probably won't kill you!
     
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  3. tbm882

    tbm882 Initiate (0) Aug 25, 2007 New York

    I would find any amount of "fuzz" in my homebrew concerning. That being said, I would still sample it before dumping.
     
  4. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    As Peter posted it is likely a pellicle formed by the Brett. I really like his statement of “enjoy the show”.

    Please report back on how this turns out. A barrel aged cherry Wit with Brett sounds awesome. This beer deserves a cleaver name.

    Cheers!
     
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  5. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Would this concern you if you had intentionally added Brett? I can see where a 'fuzz' description could come from...

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  6. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    “I would find any amount of "fuzz" in my homebrew concerning.” Have you ever stepped over to the ‘wild side’? Brewing with Brettanomyces, Lactobacillus, Pediococcus will produce fermentation results different from just using brewer’s yeast.

    Cheers!
     
  7. AlCaponeJunior

    AlCaponeJunior Grand Pooh-Bah (3,452) May 21, 2010 Texas
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    Looks extremely similar to how my cascade/vienna smash looked. Bottled it anyway, tastes fine, looks fine, for all I can tell it's normal beer. I assumed it was hop scunge that bubbled a little with CO2 coming out of solution.

    Hopefully I shouldn't be concerned.... :grimacing:
     
  8. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    I suspect you inadvertently made a SMASHADY beer.
     
  9. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    THIS is what I meant by "enjoy the show!" My reaction is torn between gag reflex and utter fascination. The knowledge that I have enjoyed Brett beers and sours is what gets me past the gag reflex.

    Single malt and single hop and... double yeast?
    As in Brettanomyces and Saccharomyces varieties?
     
  10. barfdiggs

    barfdiggs Initiate (0) Mar 22, 2011 California

    I seriously want to pop that big bubble in the middle... with my tongue. Put me in the latter camp of utter fascination.

    My last flanders looked absolutely disgusting in the carboy (chunky vomit & mayonaise) and then wispy, roapy snow in the barrel.
     
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  11. tbm882

    tbm882 Initiate (0) Aug 25, 2007 New York

    I guess the term fuzzy looked different in my head (more like mold), i would expect this if i intentionally added brettanomyces or lacto. The picture above is a bit more extreme than anything I've seen in my batches but i'm fairly new to the game when it comes to wild. That being said i would not expect the dregs from a Rayon Vert to produce this.
     
  12. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    “ …i would not expect the dregs from a Rayon Vert to produce this.” Why? Rayon Vert is brewed using Brett. Brett is capable of producing a pellicle.

    Cheers!
     
  13. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    I'm confused... you'd expect it from Brett, but not from dregs from a beer made with Brett?
     
  14. tbm882

    tbm882 Initiate (0) Aug 25, 2007 New York

    I haven't had much luck from using the dregs of a single bottle of beer with brett, without making a starter. I guess it's certainly conceivable, given that this was only a 1 gallon.

    In spending the last half hour looking at pictures of extreme pellicles, i guess "fuzzy" is the best way to describe it.
     
  15. jbakajust1

    jbakajust1 Pooh-Bah (2,552) Aug 25, 2009 Oregon
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    I usually describe it as "powdered sugar layer floating on top of beer" if it is not all bubbly like the pic above.
     
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  16. Timmush

    Timmush Pundit (931) Jan 5, 2008 New Jersey

    Thanks for all your help. It was a few bottles worth of dregs. I'll take a picture on Monday to show you guys but it did look like the picture posted earlier but it seemed more white and thicker
     
  17. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    What? And risk infecting the beer?

    Seriously - The imagery produced by your comments will keep me chuckling for the entire weekend.
     
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  18. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    None of my brett beers have formed a pellicle. I must be doing something wrong... :rolling_eyes:
     
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