Gelatin use question

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  1. Eggman20

    Eggman20 Crusader (433) Feb 14, 2017 Minnesota

    Yes you want unflavored gelatin (i use the Knox brand packets). Gelatin works best when the beer is coldest so I usually cold crash beer to 33-34 degrees, heat 1/2 cup of water to 150, mix 1/2 tsp gelatin in water and add mixture to beer, wait at least 24 hours for gelatin to do its fining work, and then bottle.
     
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  2. HerbMeowing

    HerbMeowing Maven (1,295) Nov 10, 2010 Virginia
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    Have never cold crashed a single batch.
    See it as a largely unnecessary step toward clear beer.
    Doesn't hurt ... but for me ... it's not worth the effort.

    I'll prepare the gelatin at the very beginning of the bottling process.
    The 50 ml solution has cooled enough when the time comes to rack to the bottling bucket.
     
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  3. mikehartigan

    mikehartigan Maven (1,421) Apr 9, 2007 Illinois

    Knox is the same product you'll find at many homebrew shops for 4x the price.
     
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  4. jbakajust1

    jbakajust1 Pooh-Bah (2,552) Aug 25, 2009 Oregon
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    Unflavored store bought Gelatin. Just hit my keg of Pilz with some last night.
     
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  5. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    Have only used gelatin a couple of times...to rescue a beer that wasn't supposed to be NEIPA/HEFEesque …the stripping of hop aroma was the price I had to pay. :slight_smile:
     
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  6. jbakajust1

    jbakajust1 Pooh-Bah (2,552) Aug 25, 2009 Oregon
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    Interesting. I have a Brut IPA on tap right now, one of the most hop expressive beers I've brewed I a long time now. Gelatin dropped it crystal clear. Hops are bright and clean.
     
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  7. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    I must say I totally disagree with you:slight_smile:....I have brewed many Brut IPAs and tasted many commercial examples...their major challenge is preserving the hop aroma/flavor amid the reduced mouth feel and carbohydrate reduction...when are you adding your gamma-amylase? You might be on to something...if "bright and clean" means aromatic and hoppy.
     
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  8. TheBeerery

    TheBeerery Initiate (0) May 2, 2016 Minnesota

    I was gonna show the math of the direct oxygen added to the keg with the gelatin, and how that easily puts you over the allowed amount. But then I stopped, because I don't really care.
     
  9. invertalon

    invertalon Pooh-Bah (2,249) Jan 27, 2009 Ohio
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    So you care enough to possibly do something, but don’t, then post how you don’t care about it? When obviously you are super passionate on this topic? (whether people agree or not, that is irrelevant).

    Op asks you genuinely how you get your beer clear and you are as vague as you can possibly be, while someone else (Vike) has to fill in the details on your behalf.

    Your ego, my dude, is something special. Why even post here if you always seem annoyed by almost everything, all the time?
     
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  10. jbakajust1

    jbakajust1 Pooh-Bah (2,552) Aug 25, 2009 Oregon
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    I added my Amyloglucosidase to the fermenter around day 5 of fermentation after the bulk of attenuation was done. Cranked it up from 66 to 72 like I normally do, then let it come back down to 66 after 4 days. Added my dry hops to the primary for 3 days, then racked into the keg. Carbonated for 24 hours at 40psi at 40*F. Opened the keg and ran 2psi CO2 while adding the Gelatin at 160*F. Sealed up the keg and set back to serving pressure of 14 for this beer to have the higher vols CO2. Gave it 3 days, poured off a pint, then began to drink bright beer. Hops are clear and vibrant, citrus, tropical, pine, not muddled with massive esters like a NEIPA. Bitterness is crisp and clean. Been drinking it for a couple weeks now and still getting clean hop expression on the nose and tongue.

    That being said, I'm not going to brew this particular style again anytime soon. I gelatin all my beers except Hefes (real ones, not them misnamed wheat beers) and any Belgian style. I don't do my Belgian styles since my Nectarine Blossom drops clear after a couple weeks in the keg cold on its own. I will keep the gelatin in my IPAs as I don't want to drink a ton of yeast and want to get at these quicker than time, cold, and gravity will permit.
     
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  11. HerbMeowing

    HerbMeowing Maven (1,295) Nov 10, 2010 Virginia
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    How's that happen?

    Add gelatin in bottling bucket.
    Bottle.
    How would the aroma escape?

    Is the suggestion gelatin somehow sequesters gas?
     
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  12. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

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  13. Jos3h2r

    Jos3h2r Initiate (0) Apr 7, 2015 Panama

    Found the gelatin. Ill use it in my next batch, but it will be a brown ale so i dont think ill need it for that one, or fo you guys use it on browns too? I made brown ales before and i wasnt that worry about been clear, blonde ale is a different story.

    Thanks again guys.
     
  14. HerbMeowing

    HerbMeowing Maven (1,295) Nov 10, 2010 Virginia
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  15. HerbMeowing

    HerbMeowing Maven (1,295) Nov 10, 2010 Virginia
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    Gave it a try.
    Three batches.
    Results: meh

    Clarity took a bit hit.
    Aroma didn't seem to be notably more better.

    Done wandering the wilderness.
    Going back to the gelatin at bottling time.
     
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