GigaYeast Saison?

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  1. AlexFields

    AlexFields Pooh-Bah (1,912) Dec 13, 2009 Tennessee
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    I'm wondering if anyone has used any of the GigaYeast saison strains/blends or has any information about what strains they are. I haven't found a commercially available saison strain I'm quite happy with (I don't like the flavor profile of 3711, I can't accurately maintain the high temperatures for the Dupont strain, the ECY strain is hard to get and a little too clean for me) and am wondering about these. Any information is appreciated.
     
  2. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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  3. sarcastro

    sarcastro Savant (1,133) Sep 20, 2006 Michigan

    Do you use temperature control? I found WYeast 3724 to be quite nice when you raise the temp over the fermentation.
     
  4. od_sf

    od_sf Initiate (0) Nov 2, 2010 California

    Have you tried Blaugies (Wyeast 3726)? Definitely my favorite.
     
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  5. Summer78

    Summer78 Zealot (592) Jan 18, 2013 Illinois
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    not yet ready for homebrew use (coming soon), here's an interesting read about a yeast lab in chicago that made a genetic hybrid yeast of 3711 and 3724 (hybrid, not blend) for the exact reasons you don't like either strain. i cant wait to try it out...

    http://www.guysdrinkingbeer.com/omega-yeast-labs
     
  6. pointyskull

    pointyskull Zealot (675) Mar 17, 2010 Illinois
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    I'm currently fermenting a saison with 3711 (first time for that one).
    I have used 3724 on a saison with great success, and I finished that one off in the low-mid 80's (where it went completely ravenous after the expected "3724 stuck OG"....)
     
  7. AlexFields

    AlexFields Pooh-Bah (1,912) Dec 13, 2009 Tennessee
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    I have temperature control in the sense of keeping fermenters cool, but not warming them up with any accuracy (e.g. I could put them on top of a heat vent or something but that's about it). 3726 is not usually commercially available.
     
  8. od_sf

    od_sf Initiate (0) Nov 2, 2010 California

    It's a seasonal release, it is released every year in October. You can usually find it in stores from October to February / March.
     
  9. AlexFields

    AlexFields Pooh-Bah (1,912) Dec 13, 2009 Tennessee
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    Yeah I was looking for it off and on during that time and never found it anywhere (at least not on Farmhouse or MoreBeer). I can probably get some from a friend to build up if I need to but I'm curious about these GigaYeast strains too.
     
  10. AlexFields

    AlexFields Pooh-Bah (1,912) Dec 13, 2009 Tennessee
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    Also why the hell did anyone think the winter months were the "seasonal" time for a saison strain.
     
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  11. jbakajust1

    jbakajust1 Pooh-Bah (2,552) Aug 25, 2009 Oregon
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    I popped WYeast on Twitter for that one back in October and they replied "thanks for the feedback"
     
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  12. ericj551

    ericj551 Pooh-Bah (1,638) Apr 29, 2004 Canada (AB)
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    I can't address your specific question, but I've had good luck using an aquarium heater to keep my saison warm. I just threw the carboy in my kettle, and set the aquarium heater ($20) to whatever temperature I wanted.
     
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  13. AlexFields

    AlexFields Pooh-Bah (1,912) Dec 13, 2009 Tennessee
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    Didn't know such a thing existed. I'll look into it. I could/should also probably just buy one of those heating straps for fermenters, but part of the problem is I usually brew larger batches (15 gals) that go into three fermenters so I'm looking at three of whatever heating source I buy which is expensive.
     
  14. od_sf

    od_sf Initiate (0) Nov 2, 2010 California

    I bought a bunch of it from morebeer the past few months, from their CA facility.

    Maybe because Saisons were traditionally brewed in the winter time?
     
  15. jbakajust1

    jbakajust1 Pooh-Bah (2,552) Aug 25, 2009 Oregon
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    Problem solved, and much cheaper!
    [​IMG]
     
  16. jbakajust1

    jbakajust1 Pooh-Bah (2,552) Aug 25, 2009 Oregon
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    Yes, but that was because they were mixed cultures that would sour too quick if brewed in Summer. The new way of brewing Saison is to go from grain to glass in 1.5 weeks during the Summer (this is also why everyone whines about 3724/565 which can take 4.5 weeks instead of 1.5). For those of us brewing a little more traditional Saisons (lower OG, mixed cultures, etc.) we can plan ahead and brew a new school one in July then use the slurry in November.
     
  17. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Do you have any ‘hot spots’ where you can place the fermenters during the warm/hot times of the year? I fermented my 3724 Saison in August and I placed the fermenter in an unused, non-air conditioned bedroom where the temperatures were consistently hot (>80 degrees F). The downside with 3724 is you need to be patient; my batch took 4-5 weeks to finish.

    If you are willing to brew in the summer, WLP585 will be available starting in July:

    “Available July-August

    WLP006 Bedford British Ale Yeast

    WLP540 Abbey IV Ale Yeast

    WLP585 Belgian Saison III”

    Cheers!
     
  18. rjacobs6

    rjacobs6 Initiate (0) Nov 7, 2010 Illinois

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    Beerswimmer Initiate (0) Mar 4, 2013 Texas

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  20. od_sf

    od_sf Initiate (0) Nov 2, 2010 California

    I'm just saying that it could have been their reasoning for the release period. Not saying it necessarily makes a whole lot of sense. :slight_smile:

    I really wish they'd make 3726 year round, and make 3724 seasonal with a summer release. Now that would make sense...
     
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