Glacial Gumballhead?

Should be tasty, but Amarillos define Gumballhead IMHO. I'd double your dryhopping at a minimum.

 

Below is from:http://therulingglass.blogspot.ca/p/a-drinkers-guide-to-hops-archive.html


“Amarillo has a moderately high amount of alpha acids and a low amount of cohumulone, so it is suitable for bittering, but it seems to be most prized for its aroma/flavor. It’s know for giving off notes of orange, tangerine, apricot and flowers. It is used in any beer style where a burst of citrusy American hops is desired. Most commonly, you’ll see it in beers in the pale ale family.”

“Given the very low cohumulone levels, Glacier can give off a gentle bitterness that will be perceived as lower than the IBU of the brew might indicate. It is also used for a pleasant, not too forceful flavor/aroma, where it is know for being earthy, herbal and floral with potential notes of sweet and mild citrus, fruit, wood, tea and spice. Most commonly, you are going to see it used in English inspired ales like bitters, pale ales and IPAs, though it can also be used in German influenced brews.”

I haven’t homebrewed with Glacier hops but based upon the above it doesn’t sound like Amarillo.

Cheers!

 

I love Glacier hops but they really dont resemble Amarillos at all to me. I think this beer will be delicious either way!

 

From For the Love of Hops:

Glacier: “Pleasant, classically mild aroma, floral, including citrus and stone fruits, most notably peach.”

Amarillo: ‘Intensely fruity (citrus, melon, and stone fruits), well suited for American “hop bombs”.”

I suppose the only differences are the floral aspect of Glacier and Amarillo being more potent?

Please report back on how your Glacial Gumballhead turns out.

Good luck!

Cheers!

 

I used 4 oz as a FO and another 2 oz as whirlpool in an bigger ESB creation and it was nothing like Amarillo. It was a way more "classically english" than I figured it would be. It was also not at all potently hoppy like I figured it would be. It was pretty tame to be honest. They are more floral and mildly fruity with a bit of peach but I also got some earthy and tea flavors as well. Similar to what others above described. I would use them in a bitter any day, perhaps not in a gumball inspired brew.

 

I believe the gumballhead grain bill consists of 2 row, red wheat, and aromatic.
I add some acid malt for ph and use the following proportions:

50% 2 row
42% red wheat
5% aromatic
3% acid malt

35 IBU's

 

As others said, glacier is not the right hop for this beer, but it should be a nice hop for a different hop forward wheat beer, so I wouldn't hesitate.

 

I've never used Glacier, but I have no doubt this will be a tasty beer. But Amarillo is Amarillo. It's one of those hops that really has no substitute, IMO. If you're shooting for Gumball Head, you're likely to be disappointed. But only in the sense that it won't taste like Gumball Head.

 

It took me a day to rememeber this but there was discussion about utilizing Zythos as a substitute for Amarillo in this thread:http://beeradvocate.com/community/threads/zythos-as-amarillo-sub.50838/#post-658717

Cheers!

 

I'm interested how this turns out cuz I'd like to use my home grown glaciers in a similar recipe this year.

 

ive used glacier and love it, again though, nothing like amarillo. glacier is peachy, amarillo orangey. you are right to use it late in the boil. try a different bittering hop for a firmer bitterness, and use much more glacier even than what you propose above. i might go 2-2-3, maybe even 2.5-2.5-3. id also consider mixing up my dry hops with something more citrus, like centennial.

 

I find amarillo to be quite peach like but agree it can come across orange like. But hey, to each (palate) his own!

 

To the OP, Northern brewer suggests the following for Amarillo substitutes...

"Availability: Out of stock - Due to a poor harvest, Amarillo will be scarce this year. Consider Australian Topaz or Cascade as a substitute."

Morebeer says:

"Brewers are describing the flavor and aroma as a supercharged version of Cascade. However, it has a distinctive Orange character to it that is very different from Cascade."

 

Personal preference, I'd up the crystal a bit and use 40L. It just works for me. I'd be worried about your low gravity just falling short of the hop bill. This beer will be thin and watery.

On a sidenote, this beer should smell like sex in a glass! Let us know how it comes out.