Gobbledygook from a local?

Discussion in 'Great Lakes' started by MNAle, Mar 6, 2015.

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  1. MNAle

    MNAle Initiate (0) Sep 6, 2011 Minnesota

    From the web site of one of our local breweries:

    "we craft our beers to display quality, nuance and sessionability regardless of alcohol content."

    What the heck does "...sessionability regardless of alcohol content" even mean? The term "session beer" is all about alcohol content, isn't it?

    (not explicitly picking on the brewer, hence they are nameless; just my persnickety nature about the language, that's all...)
     
  2. MNBeerGeek

    MNBeerGeek Initiate (0) Jun 25, 2013 Minnesota

    I mean.. with the powers of google you may as well just name the brewery as Fair State.
     
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  3. MNAle

    MNAle Initiate (0) Sep 6, 2011 Minnesota

    Well, I didn't say I was hiding them... just that I wasn't naming them!
     
  4. iRun2Beer

    iRun2Beer Initiate (0) Jan 27, 2015 Minnesota

    As an owner of FSB (my 0.001% ownership or whatever it is) I take offense to your Google prowess!
     
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  5. PlatonicOtterLuv

    PlatonicOtterLuv Initiate (0) Oct 23, 2014 Minnesota

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  6. MNBeerGeek

    MNBeerGeek Initiate (0) Jun 25, 2013 Minnesota

    Ha! Never had any of their beers, but I do like their logo.
     
  7. nachos

    nachos Initiate (0) Jun 4, 2012 Michigan

    What they are saying is, that no matter the alcohol content, they try to make the beer easy to drink. Sessionability means one's ability to session it, as in consume fairly quickly. Like a drink session, smoke session, etc. Doesn't seem confusing to me.
     
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  8. hezagenius

    hezagenius Initiate (0) Jan 3, 2011 Iowa

    I always took "sessionability" to mean you could drink lots of them at once without getting totally annihilated. All session beers I've seen have relatively low alcohol content so one would assume it would take longer to get drunk and your session would be longer.
     
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  9. MNAle

    MNAle Initiate (0) Sep 6, 2011 Minnesota

    Yeah, me too.
     
  10. SipIt

    SipIt Pundit (752) Jul 18, 2013 Minnesota
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    I also agree with the OP. After all, Abrasive is very drinkable, but it's not a "session beer" (although I've certainly tried - got thru 6, passed out, woke up hungover as a .....).
     
  11. nachos

    nachos Initiate (0) Jun 4, 2012 Michigan

    I'll certainly agree that the term itself "session" is subjective. Certain people can drink the shit out of a high abv beer. Or a high abv beer can be smooth to drink. And, I think as a genre or style, the term "session beer" is stupid. The term itself is flawed. But, you'll see it things like "session ipa," meaning, an ipa you can session. Essentially, it tastes like an ipa, but lower alcohol so you can drink more. So, it is one thing to refer to something as fitting a style, but it certainly can refer to one's ability to drink.

    Finally, I think if one reads and uses that thing called context, it is pretty obvious what the brewery means.
     
  12. Chumley22

    Chumley22 Initiate (0) Sep 28, 2013 Minnesota

    I like their logo, their beers and their gobbledygook! Nice stop on the western Wisconsin circuit. I believe the brewer came from Dave's Brew Farm.
     
  13. MNAle

    MNAle Initiate (0) Sep 6, 2011 Minnesota

    A "session" beer is not a style or genre. It refers specifically to ABV. To say there are "sessionable" beers irrespective of ABV is meaningless and flawed, I agree with that. All that means is that some people have a higher tolerance for alcohol than others. It says nothing whatsoever about the beer itself. Some people can "session" Jack Daniels. That doesn't make Jack Daniels "sessionable" in any meaningful sense as a description of the product.
     
  14. mjryan

    mjryan Pooh-Bah (1,571) Dec 22, 2007 Minnesota
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    I believe in fact that the term "session" when it pertains to beer is not subjective.
     
  15. islay

    islay Savant (1,211) Jan 6, 2008 Minnesota

    I've always been under the impression that a "session beer" maxes out at 4% ABV. I consider attempts to broaden the term, especially in the sense of so-called "session IPAs" that usually exceed that threshold, misguided. There is, however, a distinction between a "session beer" and "sessionability" (and Fair State employs only the latter term), which Ding acknowledges in the rant to which wisconsinbeer1 linked in an earlier post:

    "You can quite reasonable apply the term ‘sessionable’ too, BUT you need to be secure in the knowledge that a ‘sessionable beer’ is not necessarily a ‘session beer’... I have been systematically attempting to use the term ‘sessionable’ less and less myself, since most people cannot make the distinction between IT and a ‘session beer’, which categorically are not necessarily one and the same thing."

    "Sessionability" to me is a broader and, yes, subjective, term that has more to do with subtlety and body (lighter generally is more sessionable) than alcohol content. Of course it's difficult for a high-alcohol beer to be subtle and light in body. In contrast, a "session beer" 1) must be 4% ABV or below and 2) display "sessionability" (for instance, I would never call New Glarus Belgian Red a "session beer" despite the fact that it is 4% ABV). Also, I tend to contend that the beer has to derive from the British or Irish brewing tradition to count as a "session beer," as a "drinking session" is a British/Irish concept (not that there aren't parallels in other cultures).

    Ironically, the best of Fair State's beers are highly flavorful and anything but subtle, and few would say they display sessionability.

    Re: Oliphant: I know the two brewers briefly were client brewers at Dave's BrewFarm before they completed their own brewery. Whether they assisted Dave on any of his own brews, I don't know.
     
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