Going All-Grain

Discussion in 'Homebrewing' started by ronobvious2, Sep 7, 2015.

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  1. ronobvious2

    ronobvious2 Initiate (0) Aug 24, 2010 Tennessee

    So I've bought some new kit that will get here this week that will get me what I wanted out of doing all-grain: small footprint, not a lot of Igloo this-n-that and some multi-tier rigmarole, pumps, extra stuff and on and on. I still want/need to be as discrete as possible. I bought a couple of kits with the reward points from the purchase:
    AIH Two-Hearted Clone
    Sierra Nevada Torpedo Clone
    Since I took up this hobby, I've read enough about all-grain to get my feet wet (at least I feel like it). These kits seem
    straight-forward enough: single infusion mash, nothing too complicated. Our water here in Nashville is pretty bland too, so I think I'm cool with just using some straight tap water but I wanted to get some opinions. Also, we use straight-on chlorine here, no chloramine, so if I don't get my carbon block filter up and going again by brew day, I figure I'm good with just filling the kettle with my mash water and letting it sit overnight? No Campden tablets needed, I figure.
     
  2. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    Put the water in clear glass jars and let the sunshine's UV work it's magic...OR spring for $3.00 worth of RO water, CaCl, and gypsum, IMHO
     
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  3. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    If just chlorine, you could just let the water sit.

    I brewed the 2hearted clone from AIH. IMO, it needs more late hops & less crystal malt, but still OK beer.
     
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  4. scottakelly

    scottakelly Maven (1,487) May 9, 2007 Ohio

    Couple things...
    Assuming you know that city water needs to have chlorine removed?
    For an IPA you still might want to consider water mineral adjustments. Im used to Ohio well water that won't pop without adjustment
     
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  5. ronobvious2

    ronobvious2 Initiate (0) Aug 24, 2010 Tennessee

    Actually, using RO water and reconstituting would be my first choice because I can get RO water close by for 30c a gallon, which is fine by me. Just need to find a mineral 'recipe' for IPAs.
     
  6. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
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    Finally! :slight_smile:
     
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  7. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    As a 5 gal IPA batch general baseline: 7.5-8 gal RO water + 1 tsp CaCl + 2 tsp gypsum with 1 of the 2 gypsum going in the boil, IMHO
     
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  8. ronobvious2

    ronobvious2 Initiate (0) Aug 24, 2010 Tennessee

    That's in the boil - what about the mash? You can't just mash in RO water. Anyway, I guess it's finally time to start to learn how to use BrewSmith...
     
  9. ronobvious2

    ronobvious2 Initiate (0) Aug 24, 2010 Tennessee

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  10. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    Yes, 1 tsp CaCl and 1 tsp gypsum IN THE MASH...the other tsp of gypsum in the boil for flavor, IMHO
     
  11. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    That doesn't make sense to me either.
     
  12. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    I put all my salts in my HLT, so when I mash and sparge it's basicly the same water. Remember, I said this was a BASELINE IPA addition, NOT for a specific beer. AHA did say collect ~6.5 gal so they too are accounting for boil off, etc.

    Cheers
     
  13. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    Carbon will take out some solids even though it's primary purpose is to remove chlorine, et al...they probably just figured close enough (which it probably is if you are using a carbon filter)
     
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  14. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    My understanding is that carbon filters remove very little of the brewing ions (dissolved salts).
     
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  15. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    It is my understanding that carbon filters do not remove minerals (e.g., Calcium, Sulfate, etc.) from water.

    Cheers!
     
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  16. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    It is my understanding that most modern carbon cartridges do have an ion exchange process going on in the prefilter portion (but surely won't take out ALL of the salts)


    See...I did get the 2 of you to agree on something : )
     
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  17. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    And don't call me Shirley! :wink:

    Cheers!
     
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  18. billandsuz

    billandsuz Pooh-Bah (2,097) Sep 1, 2004 New York
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    carbon won't do much of anything but adsorb volatiles and some other molecules. chlorine being the important consideration. it is also an expensive way to remove sediment if you don't want to install a pleated or cellulose pre-filter.

    remember, here in America, all muni water is analyzed frequently. it is extremely rare to have any contaminant above EPA standards. all of the marketing is trying to get us to believe our muni water is unsafe and perhaps even poisonous. you need a carbon filter, just to be safe. that is of course nonsense.
    but removal of chlorine taste and odor is nice.

    well water is another matter, and should be tested by the well owner.
    Cheers.
     
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  19. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    As homebrewers, I think most of us are concerned about the mostly NON-dangerous things like TDS, total alkalinity, chlorine, etc.
    Yes, hopefully our governments are monitoring the bacteria, lead, arsenic, etc.
     
  20. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    From what I have heard this is what is charged routinely (like dryer sheets) and will result in any oppositely charged particle to adhere to it (somewhat)
     
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