Good Stouts for beginners?

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by IPAExpert69, Nov 9, 2017.

  1. IPAExpert69

    IPAExpert69 Aspirant (202) Aug 2, 2017 New Jersey
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    I'm new to stouts, been more of an IPA fan but with the changing weather it's starting to feel like Stout Season. I like Guinness and honestly really haven't tried a Stout that I've hated. What are some awesome wintery stouts to get into this Holiday Season, cheers!
     
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  2. JLK7299

    JLK7299 Savant (925) Apr 21, 2016 Connecticut
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    Founders Breakfast will make you see the potential. A lot of great ones out there, that's where I started.....
     
  3. Shanex

    Shanex Crusader (760) Dec 10, 2015 France
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    Founders Breakfast Stout. Especially if you like coffee and chocolate mixed up.

    Otherwise Founders KBS, for an extra vanilla flavor.
     
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  4. bsullivan

    bsullivan Initiate (147) Aug 17, 2017 Connecticut
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    That's What She Said by Tree House is a very good beginner stout.
     
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  5. EvenMoreJesus

    EvenMoreJesus Champion (823) Jun 8, 2017 Pennsylvania
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    Are you just looking for stout recommendations or are porters OK as well?

    What do you like about stouts that makes you want to drink more of them?
     
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  6. Shanex

    Shanex Crusader (760) Dec 10, 2015 France
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    It seems to be because winter is approaching fast and they make better ''warmer'' than cold IPAs.
     
  7. mkh012

    mkh012 Devotee (435) May 7, 2015 New Jersey
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    Firestone Walker Mocha Merlin is a good intro stout I've seen on shelves a lot recently in NJ.

    If you're accepting porter recommendations, try Deschutes Black Butte or Founders Porter.
     
  8. DISKORD

    DISKORD Initiate (160) Feb 28, 2017 Antarctica

    Founders Breakfast Stout is great, but it might be a little too much. Seek out some lover ABV (5-7%) Stouts.
     
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  9. mkh012

    mkh012 Devotee (435) May 7, 2015 New Jersey
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    I agree Breakfast Stout isn't quite an intro beer. It's fairly big/bitter.
     
  10. Fox82791

    Fox82791 Devotee (419) Jun 20, 2014 New York
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    ten fidy and breakfast stout are my favorite easily accessible stouts, but they are heavy hitters ABV-wise. might want to start lighter with something like left hand nitro stout
     
  11. scottakelly

    scottakelly Devotee (491) May 9, 2007 Ohio

    If you are just looking at stouts, my favorite is Bell's Kalamazoo. If you are looking for Porters as well, Founders and Fuller's come to mind.
     
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  12. DISKORD

    DISKORD Initiate (160) Feb 28, 2017 Antarctica

    STOUTS:
    Bell's Kalamazoo Stout
    Deschutes Obsidian Stout
    Sierra Nevada Stout
    Left Hand Milk Stout
    Stone Coffee Milk Stout
    The Duck-Rabbit Milk Stout
    Samuel Smith Oatmeal Stout
    New Holland The Poet

    PORTERS:
    Founders Porter
    Great Lakes Edmund Fitzgerald
    Deschutes Black Butte
    Sierra Nevada Porter
    Bell's Porter
    The Duck-Rabbit Porter
    New Belgium Portage
    NoDa Coco Loco
    Samuel Smith Porter
    Fuller's London Porter
    Oskar Blues Death By Coconut
    Harviestoun Old Engine Oil
    Foothills People's Porter
     
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  13. ICTguy21

    ICTguy21 Aspirant (265) Jul 18, 2017 Kansas

    Porters and milk/sweet stouts are what I'd recommend. Good for beginners and also just really good overall beers.
     
  14. beersgud

    beersgud Devotee (481) Jan 31, 2014 Kansas
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    Old Rasputin by North Coast was the first one I ever had that blew me away. It’s probably the beer that made me really fall in love with the style.
     
  15. beersgud

    beersgud Devotee (481) Jan 31, 2014 Kansas
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    Left hand milk stout is also a great stout starter.
     
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  16. mkh012

    mkh012 Devotee (435) May 7, 2015 New Jersey
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    One more...

    Lancaster Double Chocolate Milk Stout was one of my favorites when I first got into beer.
     
  17. Squire

    Squire Poo-Bah (1,834) Jul 16, 2015 Mississippi
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    My first thought are Porters.
     
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  18. EvenMoreJesus

    EvenMoreJesus Champion (823) Jun 8, 2017 Pennsylvania
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    The beers from Duck Rabbit are very underrated IMO.
     
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  19. Dutchcraftbeergeek

    Dutchcraftbeergeek Zealot (583) Nov 21, 2015 Netherlands
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    My first thought were Guinness.
    I honestly don't know about American beer though.
     
  20. HoppingMadMonk

    HoppingMadMonk Crusader (701) Mar 3, 2017 New Jersey

    @IPAExpert69 to also look at porters is a good suggestion. @DISKORD also put togethor a great list. As you live in NJ. I would go find a wegmans which will allow you to buy singles of several types and varietys. That will allow you to expose yourself to a lot of variety without commiting to a full six pack
     
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  21. Reemer686

    Reemer686 Initiate (180) Oct 13, 2014 Maryland

    Left Hand's Milk Stout Nitro would be a good next step. And you can't go wrong with any stout from Bell's.
     
  22. eppCOS

    eppCOS Defender (628) Jun 27, 2015 Colorado
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    + ODELL CUTTHROAT PORTER
     
  23. eppCOS

    eppCOS Defender (628) Jun 27, 2015 Colorado
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    + La Cumbre's Malpais (Foreign Export Style) Stout. Just baller...
     
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  24. Ranbot

    Ranbot Devotee (497) Nov 27, 2006 Pennsylvania

    @IPAExpert69 Regarding stouts and porters just be aware there is no difference between them today. If you are new to stouts/porters, please do not make a rookie mistake of arbitrarily excluding one or the other because of a name. They are both very dark colored ales. If you go back in time over a century there was a stylistic difference, but no longer, although the words have survived time. The stout vs porter debate can be controversial for some people, so to avoid that debate shitting all over this discussion, below are some links to prior discussions. If anyone feels compelled to argue or wants to learn more here you go...
    https://www.beeradvocate.com/community/threads/stout-or-porter.517584/
    https://www.beeradvocate.com/commun...ween-a-porter-a-stout-and-a-brown-ale.419620/
    https://www.beeradvocate.com/community/threads/porter-vs-stout.243882/

    ...there are more if you look...
     
  25. thuey

    thuey Aspirant (252) Nov 13, 2015 California

    Stone Xocoveza. Probably the only thing I like from them.
     
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  26. DISKORD

    DISKORD Initiate (160) Feb 28, 2017 Antarctica

    "Good Stouts for beginners"

    One too many recommendation don't belong here!
     
  27. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Meyvn (1,139) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    Left hand milk stout, odell cut throat porter, ska steel toe stout, murphys, st peters cream stout.
     
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  28. Mindsculptor

    Mindsculptor Initiate (188) Dec 6, 2013 Texas
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    If you like Guinness, just about any stout is going to be approachable. Darkstar November is probably my favorite beer period, but it can be expensive on the secondary market.
     
  29. champ103

    champ103 Poo-Bah (4,211) Sep 3, 2007 Texas
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    Guinness just released their 200th Anniversary Stout, which is a very good Foreign Export Stout. If you are really looking for 'beginners' stouts, I would probably avoid imperials or adjunct/additive stouts. Not sure of what is available to you, but Deschutes Obsidian Stout is also very good and is about everywhere.
     
  30. Thecalmdrinker

    Thecalmdrinker Aspirant (269) Jun 27, 2015 Nevada

    Ten Fidy might be too strong for a beginner.

    I would say something like

    Deschutes Obsidian Stout
    Samuel Adams Cream Stout
    Sierra Nevada Stout
     
  31. IPAExpert69

    IPAExpert69 Aspirant (202) Aug 2, 2017 New Jersey
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    I like most beers, and porters are dope too. Never thought there was really much of a difference. I'm open to most suggestions.
     
  32. IPAExpert69

    IPAExpert69 Aspirant (202) Aug 2, 2017 New Jersey
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    I've had the Sierra Nevada and most other big beer stouts that come in winter packs, I'm looking for some more unique beers to search for, but those are all good choices too!
     
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  33. Kb024

    Kb024 Initiate (171) Jun 11, 2015 California

    I started out drinking stouts that werent fresh and it kinda turned me off. I also started out drinking imperial stouts. Recently ive been drinking milk stouts and stouts around 5-6% αbv. fresh on tap and ive been super impressed. The Bells double cream stout and Stone Xocoveza bottles i recekntly got were less than 3 weeks from bottling and i feel like it makes a huge difference. Those along with the Belching Beaver peanut butter milk stout on tap may be my favorite brews at the moment and im an ipa guy. Now i have no problem drinking a 6 month old Founders breakfast stout but it was surely these fresh stouts that made me a believer.
     
  34. BeanBump

    BeanBump Aspirant (253) Dec 14, 2016 California

    Speedway Stout
     
  35. marquis

    marquis Crusader (758) Nov 20, 2005 United Kingdom (England)

    To reinforce what has already been mentioned , Stout and Porter are two different names for exactly the same thing.
    In fact, history is littered with examples of the same beer being sold under both names either at different times or in different markets..
     
  36. Kb024

    Kb024 Initiate (171) Jun 11, 2015 California

    Lol. That was actually my first stout. It is probably not a beginners stout. I had a 13 oz. Pour for lunch along with a couple others. It is one of the best stouts ive ever had but I almost over did it that day.
     
  37. Kb024

    Kb024 Initiate (171) Jun 11, 2015 California

    Idk... From my experience i like the few porters ive drank but they usually seem a lil watered down or somethin compared to stouts. It may have been a freshness thing but i remember thinking Deshuttes black butte porter was pretty weak. It gave me the idea that porter was kinda like a session stout. I dont really see any imperial porters around and porters are hard to find fresh.
     
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  38. Sabtos

    Sabtos Poo-Bah (4,308) Dec 15, 2015 Ohio
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    I agree with the Porter recommendations here. If Guinness is your starting point, Porters are your next step in the dark craft world. Bells and Founders will get you going just fine.
     
  39. dennis3951

    dennis3951 Champion (824) Mar 6, 2008 New Jersey
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    Excellent list it's nice to know that at least some BA's know the difference between a Stout and an Imperial Stout.
     
  40. marquis

    marquis Crusader (758) Nov 20, 2005 United Kingdom (England)

    It is easy to find individual examples which seem to show a pattern one way or another.
    Basically the style is Porter. Stout simply means strong so the stronger Porters were called Stout Porter or just Stout.There were brewers who simply called all their beers Porter.Or used the names interchangeably at will.But the difference disappeared post WW1 when many brewers simply rebadged their Porters as Stouts .
     
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