Good Stouts for beginners?

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  1. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    Yeah, that’s a weird one. They call it a “sweet stout” (not a milk stout)... but they are clearly referencing dairy in the marketing. I too was scratching my head when that cow showed up. :thinking_face::slight_smile:
     
  2. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    Yeah, well that's often the problem with animal (or even human) logos, isn't it? We see a cow on their stout and think, "Lactose!" but no similar supposition when it is other mammals on labels, like...
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    Me, I always feel uncomfortable when cartoon pigs, chickens or lobsters want me to eat BBQ ribs, or eggs or steamed seafood. I mean, c'mon, have some self-respect (or should that be "self-preservation" ?)
     
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  3. ingchr1

    ingchr1 Zealot (584) Jun 4, 2008 New York

    Spoken in true NJ language!
     
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  4. DISKORD

    DISKORD Initiate (0) Feb 28, 2017 South Carolina

    Nobody starts with Imperial Stouts. This is not how it works.
     
  5. Junior

    Junior Pooh-Bah (1,883) May 23, 2015 Michigan
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    So glad I found an expert on my tastes and preferences. This will save me so much time in the future. Do you provide advice on which foods or vacation spots I might enjoy? Thoughts on which investment plan that would best fit my needs?
     
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  6. DISKORD

    DISKORD Initiate (0) Feb 28, 2017 South Carolina

    It's not about your tastes and your preferences. The point is, nobody starts with big, bold, Imperial Stouts - PERIOD!

    You obviously aren't aware of this, but there's a big section on here dedicated to just that. People ask advice and others chime in to help. As far as which investment plan goes, you're on the wrong site.
     
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  7. IPAExpert69

    IPAExpert69 Savant (1,065) Aug 2, 2017 Pennsylvania

    just throw a couple Bruce lyrics, disses on NY, and corruption claims it would be perfect NJ language
     
  8. Urk1127

    Urk1127 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,790) Jul 2, 2014 New Jersey
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    Lol. Live and die by the parkway. Nobody knows where anything is but if you know parkway exits, youll what where. Lol.
     
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  9. Urk1127

    Urk1127 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,790) Jul 2, 2014 New Jersey
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    Our water may be toxic but the pizza is better than NYC! I make it, i should know :smirk: and thats from a ny born.
     
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  10. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    Funny coincidence - I drank a Bell's Double Cream Stout today. BBC's beer has company. Just like Sam Adams Cream Stout, Bell's beer is marketed by them as a "sweet stout" and it doesn't use lactose... but it's listed as an "American stout" here. Bell's uses the term "cream" because they think it has a creamy texture. Of course, there are reviews of this beer that talk about a lactose aroma and taste... and even a cream flavor from the cream used. :grimacing:
     
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  11. marquis

    marquis Pooh-Bah (2,313) Nov 20, 2005 England
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    One of our brewers make a beer called Stilton Porter. It was at the time brewed in the heart of Stilton cheese making country and complemented it wonderfully.
    Unsurprisingly there are people who swear they can taste the Stilton in the beer.
     
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  12. MaxOhle

    MaxOhle Initiate (0) Nov 10, 2012 Illinois

    Some great ones that are easy to enjoy are Schlafly Coffee Bender, Stone Xocoveza, and Great Lakes Edmund Fitzgerald (Porter), IMO. Another one I hadn't tried until recently that I also liked was Eugene by Revolution. Since you say you are new to Stouts/Porters I would recommend staying away from boozier variations. Enjoy!
     
  13. Beerqdude01

    Beerqdude01 Initiate (104) Nov 17, 2017 Illinois

    (1st. Anything on this site.) I like going to the big liquor store(Binny's for me) and picking up different singles and seeing for yourself what's good for your taste buds. You can find a great Stout for a few bucks or treat yourself to a big rarer one.
     
  14. bbtkd

    bbtkd Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,790) Sep 20, 2015 South Dakota
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    I recently tried and liked Bell's Arabicadabra, an outstanding coffee beer that would be great for a beginner with their training wheels still on.
     
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  15. DISKORD

    DISKORD Initiate (0) Feb 28, 2017 South Carolina

    Old Rasputin is not very approachable. High ABV and very hoppy/bitter. Just because you're used to something by now, doesn't mean it'll work for a beginner.
     
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  16. IPAExpert69

    IPAExpert69 Savant (1,065) Aug 2, 2017 Pennsylvania

    have it sitting in my fridge at the moment thanks to @colby600 , can't wait to try it
     
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  17. DISKORD

    DISKORD Initiate (0) Feb 28, 2017 South Carolina

    Did you see my list? That's all you really need...for now!

    Enjoy!
     
  18. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    There was a period in the US, roughly from the early 1950s (after Guinness closed their short-lived US brewery in LIC, NY) to sometimes in the mid-late 1960s when the only Guinness sold in the US was the ~8% Guinness Foreign Extra Stout, imported by Heublein, and it was likely the only stout sold in most regions of the country.

    So, an ABV that's not considered "Imperial" today, but likely one of the beers with highest alcoholic content available in the US at the time. And if you wanted to "start" with stouts, that was your only choice.

    Not many US-brewed stouts left by then, whatever other imported stouts were around were probably very limited and Guinness Draught wouldn't hit the US market until mid-1960s and was sold initially only in a few large urban areas. Bottled Extra Stout became their US "standard" stout around the same time.
     
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  19. IPAExpert69

    IPAExpert69 Savant (1,065) Aug 2, 2017 Pennsylvania

    I'm skipping the lower abv stuff cause I know that scene already, I usually drink very bitter and hoppy IPA's so I'm sure the transition won't be too bad. Plus, go big or go home.
     
  20. DISKORD

    DISKORD Initiate (0) Feb 28, 2017 South Carolina

    Really? You should've mentioned it in the title of your thread! "Good Stouts for beginners". :thinking_face:

    How about "Good Imperial (or high ABV) Stouts recommendations"
     
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