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Discussion in 'Midwest' started by mmulebarn, Nov 23, 2013.
It sounded to me like there were still a lot of stores that had it ordered but didn't receive their allotment as of now. I can't remember what store it was but I imagine either a lot of stores will be getting some in this week or they are going to be shut out.
My honey hole... Faribault haha!
Maybe the distributor held it back. I'm sure delivery trucks were full with their normal deliveries, the Bourbon County stuff, and all the other special stuff that came out the past week.
Any idea if more coffee or BW is going to hit the twin cities?
The places I talked to were not getting Bourbon County on the normal truck but it was couriered out by the rep. Not sure if this is true for all stores or not though.
What i have heard, is that the vast majority of the bombers are going to restaurants, since they can charge a premium.
this is why we can collectively say "screw the Minnesota distributors". I understand it is a business, and that the goal is to max out the revenue on the income statement, and increase the assets on the balance sheet, but there IS something to be said about appeasing the loyal fan base. When you hear from big stores that they are expecting the unique stuff to go to restaurants because of margin, that just pisses people off. Unfortunately, GI and ABINBEV could care less, because for every person who is upset and doest want to buy next year, there are 5 that will.
This makes little to no sense. The distributors, to the best of my knowledge, charge the same rate to both on and off sale when it comes to stuff like this. There are different price tiers due to quantity ordered, but when they are only getting a case or two it will be the same price for each establishment. So are you trying to say that the distributors intentionally want the end customer to pay more???? That would be the worst business model ever. Now, if all of the bombers are going to on sale, it is probably due more to the fact that they cannot provide enough for all of their accounts and this is the way they chose to divvy it up.
There is plenty to be said about Minnesota getting the shaft on these releases, but to just go and make up some asinine reason that makes no sense if you think about it for even a fraction of a second is just lame.
I'm not making anything up. I am just sharing what I heard.
And how is that an asinine statement? Why would they opt to distribute to restaurants over stores if not for their own benefit?
There can't be that many restaurants that would even want it. The bottle programs in the TC are not every extensive, excepts for a few spots.
IIRC John the former Goose Island rep said part of the reason for selling it to restuarants is to make sure that people who wanted a taste had a better chance at it. Since the truck chasers can't just go and buy the allotment, it gives us people who work during the day a better chance.
Im actually in favor of this too. I got a bottle of Cherry Rye last year at 3 square. It was the only variant I was able to get, so I dont mid them going to restaurants. This year, every place has sold out in less than an hour, so that means no BCBS for me for the first time since I bought it about 6 years ago...
Yeah, im not even going to try for backyard this week. Ive got wedding venues to look at over my lunch breaks.
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The last of the Bourbon County and Deschutes Abyss has been put out. This won't last long. First come first serve. No phone holds. Hope to see you soon.
There is a picture of what they have left on FB
How is if for their own benefit? Restaurants don't get charged more they just charge more to their consumer, so the distributor doesn't make any more money. There are plenty of reasons why they would send them to restaurants: opportunity for more people to try it, fewer accounts so easier to please more of them, raising the profile of craft beer in high end establishments, just to name a few.
The statement is asinine because it makes accusations that are unsubstantiated by facts and asks for people to be angry with the distributors. It isn't the distributors fault that GI decided to send us less bourbon county brand everything this year than it did last year. It isn't the distributors fault (it is actually their job) that the popularity of craft beer has been exploding over the past few years. I would call that kind of statement foolish.
Hug it out bros.
Nothing to add..just wanted to say great response.
While it's unpopular, those that REALLY want to taste the variant have a better chance to do so. Lot's of people don't want to pay the mark-up for the bottle at a restaurant. I get it shouldn't cost that much but it gives those who REALLT want it a chance to get it cheaper than trading and a few people can still share the bottle. That being said I wouldn't mind running into a bottle but at this point it doesn't seem very likely any other way than paying on Craigslist. Admittedly I don't know a lot of BAs and am sort of an introvert so sometimes it's hard to get into bottle shares when I don't know anybody there.
You know I'm afraid of human contact. Back to work for me, and no offense was meant toward AnalogErik. But there are lots of things in this thread that really tick me off. Limited releases are going to be hard for everyone to find and to get as much as they want. I would have loved 3 four packs of the BCBW, I was fortunate enough to get 2 bottles.
Some people will like what store X does some people won't. Some people will like what store Y does and some people wont'. Usually people like the method that benefits them. So continue to shop at the places with your preferred method of distribution but really, just enjoy the beer. If you only got 2 bottles, that is two more than plenty of other people got so be happy with it, I know I am.
I think i paid $24 or $28 for the cherry rye, which isnt too bad of a markup. Coffee was $22 or 23 i think, so I dont mid paying an extra $5 at all if it means I get to try one
Just out of curiosity, which restaurants do you guys generally see these bombers end up at? I felt like I looked all over for the cherry rye last year (at restaurants) and didn't find it anywhere.
Someone mentioned 3 Squares? Never heard of it, after googling it I assume the place in Maple Grove? I guess I would've thought these would show up at places like Grumpy's and Butcher and the Boar.
How is $23/bottle not too bad of a markup? My friend found a 4-pack of coffee in the twin cities on Saturday for $18.
Because last year it was in bombers not four packs.
this was last year when it was bomber only and they were around $22
My bad on that one - I didn't get any last year and forgot about that.
None taken, you are making completely valid arguments, and now that im thinking about it rationally, you are spot on regarding distributor pricing.
I was just sharing what i had heard from people at the shops. Not necessarily the buyers, but the people at the shops. Other customers, random sales people. I checked out 20 or so stores over my lunch breaks mon-thurs last week.
The bit about blaming distributors was intended to be somewhat tongue-in-cheek, but the rest isnt. I think there is a valid argument about appeasing the market. Unfortunately, restaurants may have won out this time around. I dont know if thats the case for sure, but i'll be watching the on-tap thread.
As another poster noted, the likely reason for restaurants getting bottles is probably related to availability for the market.
That being said, i probably shouldn't try and write replies at 10:25pm when i'm knee deep in a 12% growler.
Back to straight talk:
Any Backyard sightings today?
I think somebody mentioned last year that the Happy Gnome had Cherry Rye for $30/bottle.
I know that last year Busters did some Cherry Rye bombers for on-site consumption (they are closed due to the fire, so this doesn't really help - sorry.) Don't quote me, but I think it was $28 a bottle. Hilariously, I saw a bomber of Cherry Rye at a restaurant in Chicago this past spring for $65.
Buffalo Tap in savage sometimes gets some awesome beers, and they put their list online. Ill be watching for it there.
Speaking of markup. I was in Chicago for black Friday and we were in a bar(can't remember the name) and I see a bottle of Cherry rye and we were about to get it until we saw the price 60 bucks and coffee was 50 so we passed on it.
I'm sure that's one more trend downtown Minneapolis will try to steal from Chicago.
This summer Haute Dish had Bramble and Coffee for $30, not a bad mark up IMO.
$28 is correct; they had bombers of coffee as well. Really miss Busters; hope they're open again soon.
You couldn't get this bottles to-go? That is illegal in Mn right.
Dang, I woulda been all over that deal.
Nope any bottle you buy in the bar has to stay in the bar till it's gone. If you collect empty bottles I'm not sure if they would let you take the empty or not. As for the price I remember people were all angry and not about to pay $30 at the time.
Is this specific to beer? In MN if you buy a bottle of wine with dinner and don't finish it, you can stick the cork back in and take the rest home. Granted, wine has a better "shelf life" once opened more so than beer, but the case could be made that you should be able to put some type of seal on the beer bottle and take the unfinished portion home.
Yeah, wine only.
Coffee and Barleywine seem to have hit the north metro in the last 2 days.