Great Lager Talk

Discussion in 'Homebrewing' started by The_Modern_Brewhouse, Feb 11, 2022.

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  1. The_Modern_Brewhouse

    The_Modern_Brewhouse Initiate (195) Sep 25, 2020 Minnesota

    Great lager talk with Brewmasters from Sierra Nevada and Weihenstephaner.


    As an aside, I know the topic HSA get quite a bit of flack round here from some folks...But I HIGHLY recommend you stick around(or fast forward) to the QA session at 1:03, so you can hear what the pros say straight from their mouth.

     
    #1 The_Modern_Brewhouse, Feb 11, 2022
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  2. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Let's see...
    Sierra Nevada deoxygenates their mash water and purges the mill's gas space with nitrogen.
    Weihenstephan does "the same."

    But what do these guys know, anyway? They're probably talking about preventing problems that "just don't happen at the homebrew level." Cue the "My wife and I gobble up my delicious homebrew so fast that it doesn't matter" responses.

    Yeah, I have a wicked bad cold and am being preemptively snarky. Everyone should brew the way they want. Time for a nap.
     
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  3. premierpro

    premierpro Savant (1,060) Mar 21, 2009 Michigan

    I'm not going to debate the fact that keeping oxygen prefermentation out of your beer is a good idea but I don't have an issue with my 10 gallon batches. A lot of home brewers have enough money in the set ups they have. I'm willing to wager that I could not taste the difference between a beer brewed on a home brew system with both techniques. But I'm with VikeMan on this one. Brew the way you want!
     
    #3 premierpro, Feb 14, 2022
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  4. The_Modern_Brewhouse

    The_Modern_Brewhouse Initiate (195) Sep 25, 2020 Minnesota

    If you can't taste the difference between a homebrewed pils/helles, and a fresh on at the tap at said brewery (Continental not "craft", say Weihenstephaner) Or Homebrewand fresh beer on tap at SN then I would agree. But if you can tell a difference between the two then I wouldn't.

    At the end of the day brew how you want, its a hobby for most anyway. Doesn't stop the science though however....
     
    #4 The_Modern_Brewhouse, Feb 15, 2022
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  5. GormBrewhouse

    GormBrewhouse Pooh-Bah (2,111) Jun 24, 2015 Vermont
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    Well for myself, my lagers suck and perhaps I would do better with less o2. But those setups cost more than I wanna spend, so I pass on the lagers , but have enjoyed many commercial variety’s in Co right from the tap.
     
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    jbakajust1 Pooh-Bah (2,552) Aug 25, 2009 Oregon
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    I don't take any special precautions for O2 on coldside, especially not for my malts and brewing water, and my lagers don't suck. You might want to look into other factors in your system/process before just throwing lagers aside.
     
    #6 jbakajust1, Feb 15, 2022
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  7. premierpro

    premierpro Savant (1,060) Mar 21, 2009 Michigan

    I do not claim to brew better beer then Weihenstephaner although my Pilsners and dark lagers are excellent. They are the masters of their craft while I am the master of mine. I am not in any way saying limiting oxygen is not a good Idea. Also I am not interested in stopping science. Take care!
     
    #7 premierpro, Feb 16, 2022
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  8. The_Modern_Brewhouse

    The_Modern_Brewhouse Initiate (195) Sep 25, 2020 Minnesota

    The TL: DR version

     
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  9. premierpro

    premierpro Savant (1,060) Mar 21, 2009 Michigan

    Interesting watch but not worth the cost, effort, and time for me. My worst pick up would be when I'm kegging and so far I'm happy! Take care!
     
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