Great Notion

Discussion in 'Northwest' started by maltmaster420, Jan 22, 2016.

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  1. ElijahSF

    ElijahSF Initiate (0) Aug 30, 2013 California

    "Cool .... you must have someone in the area that is willing to go regularly stand in line and then send you half of their allocation. Most folks wouldn't be willing to do that."

    Just one example of how much they think of me and how much they know I appreciate their beer. The locals are the people who made them feel like traitors, obviously they've had much more of a positive impact on the rest of the country. It is what it is.
     
  2. honkduh

    honkduh Initiate (0) Jun 2, 2011 Oregon

    Does not compute
     
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  3. LockeNess33

    LockeNess33 Initiate (0) Feb 2, 2016 Oregon

    Wait, so is GN sending their beer directly to you? If so, then no wonder you are such a fanboy.

    No, that is not how it is. As everyone who actually lives in the area has continuously communicated to you.
     
  4. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
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    [QUOTE="ElijahSF, post: 5439226, member: 751334The locals are the people who made them feel like traitors.[/QUOTE]


    WTF!?!?!? Dude, stick to decaf from now on. Seriously.

    No one has been bashing GN and no one thinks they're traitors.

    It seems like I've been reading GN posts/threads on BA for months now, and the worst thing I've seen said about them, is that their incredible popularity (locally) is difficult to comprehend, as the quality of some of their beer doesn't seem to justify it.

    Just about everyone seems to think they're a pretty good brewery, but some folks (not you obviously) aren't quite ready to elevate them to deity-like status. For those who think they're the greatest thing since scotch tape, I'm sure you feel that's probably damning them with faint praise. Even so, that's still a far cry from "bashing them" and suggesting their embrace of the NE IPA style somehow makes them a traitor. What complete and utter nonsense.
     
  5. ElijahSF

    ElijahSF Initiate (0) Aug 30, 2013 California

    Their words, not mine and the rest of the country as I've said many times and has been proven is and has already elevated them to deity-like status. They deserve it.
     
  6. itracy63

    itracy63 Savant (1,187) Apr 20, 2013 Washington

    It's a one-sixth barrel, 1/6 barrel would also work here. Six-barrel is a gun term.
     
  7. guajolote

    guajolote Maven (1,359) Sep 12, 2008 Oregon

    I haven't had a problem with many of your posts like some others here have, but with all due respect, you have no fucking idea what you're talking about.
     
  8. LockeNess33

    LockeNess33 Initiate (0) Feb 2, 2016 Oregon

    Can you please show us how this has been 'proven'? You keep stating as fact that the rest of the country is much higher on GN they the folks are locally. Yet you have not provided any evidence to suggest that this is true.
     
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  9. ElijahSF

    ElijahSF Initiate (0) Aug 30, 2013 California

    We've officially entered bizarro world.

    "Browse Instagram or Untappd and you'll see tons of GN crowlers acquired in trades all over the country."

    "And they're even taking note back east. A few weeks ago, Dugan found himself at the Extreme Beer Fest in Boston, a highly curated event put on by the founders of influential website and magazine Beer Advocate. Great Notion had the longest lines at the festival and sold out in only about 2 1/2 hours."

    "Sound a little weird? Well, I went to Boston last summer and drank every hazy New England IPA I could find. Great Notion is better than anything I had there. Maybe there's some little backwoods brewery that can top them, but Trillium certainly can't. Odd as it sounds, Portland, Ore., now has better New England IPAs than Portland, Maine."

    I've also sent their beers to people in VA, KY, WA, IL and OH and all of them feel the same way I do.


    "Opinions were divided at first—sometimes bitterly. Last spring, a mere photo of the beer in a glass could cause a thread to get heated.

    "I feel like a lot of the people who have lived here for years and have seen the whole Northwestern style develop think it's a dig at the style, or a lack of respect for the roots and origins of what an IPA represents in this region," Dugan says. "It's almost like, since we're making Northeast IPAs, we're traitors."

    "That feeling mostly dissipated after a few months, but Juice Jr. and its hazy siblings still offend a few traditionalists and those who've come to like the sharp, grassy chomp of a standard Northwest IPA. "
     
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  10. SeaAle

    SeaAle Maven (1,381) Jun 24, 2012 Oregon

    A bigger worry than accusing a brewery of creating hype for their beer.

    Great Notion Brewing was [​IMG]feeling annoyed.

    Yesterday at 9:56am ·
    Great... Anheuser-Busch InBev just swooped in and bought all of the exciting new South African hops we thought we had coming to us this summer.
     
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  11. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
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    As has been said before, it's obvious you're a big fan of GN, which I'm pretty sure is something none of us is bothered by or have any qualms over. However, it's probably a stretch to suggest that the rest of the country shares your impression of GN (some probably do, but that's a pretty high bar).

    As has been said before I believe, just because we all don't feel the same way about GN as you in no way invalidates your opinion. I'm assuming that must be something you worry about, as otherwise I can see no reason why you would feel it so important to convince those dissenters among us that we're completely wrong, that GN really is greatest thing since sliced bread.

    We all have different tastes, and so understandably different ideas as to what brewery or breweries are making the best beer. Just speaking for myself, I think that's kind of cool, and I like hearing other people's impressions and reasons for why they think one brewery is making better beer than another. Just because I might not agree with their impression, doesn't make them wrong. Vive la différence, no?

    Yet for some reason, it really seems to bother you. If everyone doesn't share your opinion of GN's exalted status, that seems to really bother you, and in fact you seem to find it insulting (as if those of us who don't share you're opinion are either being disingenuous or are being intentionally obtuse).

    Frankly, I find your reaction more than a bit puzzling.
     
  12. derftron

    derftron Pooh-Bah (1,663) Feb 8, 2012 Oregon
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    Nuke this entire thread back to the stoneage
     
  13. LockeNess33

    LockeNess33 Initiate (0) Feb 2, 2016 Oregon

    If this is the only 'evidence' you can provide for your broad sweeping statements of fact then I think we are done here. No logical person would make the jumps that you've made based on a few forum posts and snippets from a single article. Just because the brewer feels that way does not mean the majority of folks here feel that way. I have a feeling that the brewer was basing those statements on the same forum posts that you are referencing. Simply not representative and completely inaccurate when it comes to the area as a whole.

    Bummer news for sure. However, I have full confidence that the ingenuity of the brewers at GN will allow them to make fantastic beer without this hop source. I'm not sure how much you've looked into this, but I suggest you take a look at this thread:

    https://www.beeradvocate.com/community/threads/a-b-inbev-to-cut-off-sales-of-south-african-hops-to-indie-brewers.509891/

    It sounds to me like this source of hops was always in danger of disappearing based on a number of potential reasons (procured through brokers -- no long term contracts). I greatly dislike many of the things that AB InBev does, however I don't think this is one of their more malicious moves.



    Back to the actual beer ... it looks like Fortunate Sun crowlers are still available. These were released back on Monday. Blueberry Muffin crowlers (released yesterday) are gone however. I realize it's a hoppy wheat and not an IPA, but still surprising to me.
     
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  14. stillill

    stillill Devotee (329) Mar 6, 2016 Washington

    I am aware, I was using the short-hand my friends and I use.
     
  15. dphi

    dphi Zealot (534) Apr 14, 2013 Oregon

    Almost spit my beer out when I read "I'ma name her Juice Box", thanks derf. Laughed again when dude quoted Martin's love letter to GN as evidence of their greatness.

    I like most of their beers quite a bit (their non-blueberry muffin sours are very underrated), though maybe not as much as stuff coming out of B15 or Breakside but either way this thread has unmatched comedic value.
     
  16. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,846) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    Yeah, dropping that "th" really tightened things up.
     
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  17. LockeNess33

    LockeNess33 Initiate (0) Feb 2, 2016 Oregon

    It's OK to not know things.
     
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  18. Reidrover

    Reidrover Grand Pooh-Bah (4,886) Jan 14, 2003 Oregon
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    Thats weird. I think people up here mostly like their beers, many of us though naturally avoid hype and long lines of whale hunters and the likes.
    Traitors? No one thinks that.
    I get it he is trying to heighten the hype even more..good business sense. But not the natural PNW style of doing things..but hardly treason.
     
  19. ElijahSF

    ElijahSF Initiate (0) Aug 30, 2013 California

    You obviously don't have to agree with what I'm saying, but to accuse me of having no fucking idea of what I'm talking about isn't true. I've also been respectful while posting in this forum and I'd like to keep it that way.
     
  20. LockeNess33

    LockeNess33 Initiate (0) Feb 2, 2016 Oregon

    I totally agree. Basically all of their sours are very good to excellent in my opinion. Speaking of the ingenuity of GN I mentioned earlier ... I really like the 'blends' they do too. 'Love and Mangos' (blend of Juice Jr. and Zest with vanilla and mangos) is still one of the best beers I've had from them.
     
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