Green Flash Cellar 3 Series - "Silva Stout"

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  1. BeerMe330

    BeerMe330 Initiate (0) Dec 13, 2013 Ohio

    Got an email today offering a gift for my trouble.
     
  2. BMBCLT

    BMBCLT Grand Pooh-Bah (3,427) May 9, 2014 South Carolina
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    Breweries' t-shirts are $20-25 a piece. So, there you go! Maybe some stickers and a glassware.
     
  3. hunninghake

    hunninghake Initiate (0) Nov 21, 2005 Colorado

    Haven't seen that email, yet. Am also certainly not going to lean towards Mike's recommendation that I go ahead and delve further into the two remaining bottles I have left: fool me once....

    Seeing trusted BA members also identifying this as an expanding issue lends credence as to why I will not open the last two C3's until the matter with the Brewer is fully resolved. Drain pouring $20.00 was painful enough...likely adding another $40.00 to a sink sacrifice won't be any better.

    Where these were initially a 1 bottle/person item at several retailers in Denver; they are now sitting on shelves and in coolers several bottles deep. Whether or not this can be attributed to the cost or that word is getting out about apparent quality issues I'm not sure. However, it is fast becoming apparent that this is more than an issue with 1% of the release. I have long enjoyed Green Flash but this is certainly becoming a blemish and will hopefully be resolved soon with their customer's best interests in mind.
     
  4. pagriley

    pagriley Pooh-Bah (2,382) Oct 27, 2014 Illinois
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    Do you have the receipts? I was able to return my bottle to the store - based on this thread I decided it wasn't even worth opening to find out - just took it back and they refunded. Worth a shot if you can.
     
  5. mph005

    mph005 Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2013 Texas
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    Unless a brewer finds actual evidence of significant issues, there will always be doubts. I've never seen a brewer take the public's word over their own experience, particularly when it starts in a forum many breweries hate anyway.

    My bottle was crap, but I only paid $10 and I knew the risk going in. I sent a note on facebook, but did not receive a reply.
     
  6. hunninghake

    hunninghake Initiate (0) Nov 21, 2005 Colorado

    I don't...try to avoid any possibility of me having to come face to face with just how much I spend on beer every month :wink: And, I've never really had to deal with an issue similar to this which would merit returning the product...been lucky, I guess.

    Thankfully, the few places that I go to know me and would likely take them back without a receipt. However, I'm hoping to have this resolved directly with the Brewer; and therefore not have to inconvenience my stores with incoming product that should likely never have left the brewery in the first place.

    I think that you did the right thing. Very possible that it would have been a repeat of your first experience.
     
  7. Preluderl

    Preluderl Pooh-Bah (1,796) Sep 27, 2012 Pennsylvania
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    I emailed them as well, but I'm not expecting anything in return. Hopefully all of the examples will help them figure out what the issue is and avoid it in the future.
     
  8. pagriley

    pagriley Pooh-Bah (2,382) Oct 27, 2014 Illinois
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    I never even bothered opening one of them - was reading the thread a few weeks ago, and decided it wasn't worth the risk. The store I shop at will actually take returns of opened bottles if there is a problem / infection, but I didn't want to go through the hassle for a beer that is catching this much flak
     
  9. blues_fever

    blues_fever Initiate (0) Apr 2, 2015 California
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    Seems that this beer has had a lot of problems and I am glad that I did not try to buy this, let alone try this. Green Flash probably has lost some followers and they have taken a hit to their reputation.
     
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  10. pagriley

    pagriley Pooh-Bah (2,382) Oct 27, 2014 Illinois
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    Interestingly, I doubt their will be much impact on their regular business. We few BA's who get mad about this sort of stuff are also quick to forget when the next 'great' beer comes out, and besides, BA's make up such a small percentage of their every day customers.

    Their West Coast IPA will still sell just fine, but I agree, there will probably be a decent number of beer geeks who hesitate to pull the trigger on a $20 bottle of their next Cellar 3 release...
     
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  11. derftron

    derftron Pooh-Bah (1,663) Feb 8, 2012 Oregon
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    I didnt have the same problem as many on here.

    But I will say that it wasnt that great of a beer. The barrel aging did not integrate well with the base beer and it was kind of a mess.
     
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  12. rozzom

    rozzom Pooh-Bah (2,620) Jan 22, 2011 New York
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    Rarely look at the beer releases section - had no idea this was an issue. I bought two bottles on two occasions in NYC - both were fine. Definitely not my favourite BA stout by any means, but not infected.
     
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  13. RockAZ

    RockAZ Pundit (983) Jan 6, 2009 Arizona

    Popped back in to check this thread, I was one of the ones that got two good bottles and am holding a third. Still had one empty in the recycle and since I bought them at the same time/place - they all are 2/16/15 bottle date. I know where one more is, going to buy it now, (noted that it has been marked down to $14.99 ?),....

    Blending is an art after all, isn't it?
     
  14. cosmicdebris

    cosmicdebris Initiate (0) Feb 8, 2008 Connecticut

    Sorry to I took a chance and wound pouring $20.00 down the drain too.
     
  15. BeerBeast

    BeerBeast Pooh-Bah (2,491) Oct 9, 2012 Florida
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    I'm dubious that all of these $20 bottles that are supposedly being drain-poured are actually meeting such an ignominious end.
     
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  16. urethrafranklin13

    urethrafranklin13 Initiate (0) Feb 24, 2014 Michigan

    too much time in the barrel but more often poor storing conditions, temperature control is a big deal, it should be treated in the barrel the same as if it were going to be cellared in the bottle i beleive.
     
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  17. Lorianneb

    Lorianneb Pundit (919) Apr 27, 2012 New Jersey

    I really did pour half my bottle down the drain after choking down the first half. Not a figure of speech and something I've done only a handful of times
     
  18. Moose90

    Moose90 Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2012 Washington

    I've had this on tap and in bottles and it has been great each time. I just cannot verify any of these rumors. I got a really great roasted complexity to it, it was lightly sweet, but there was certainly nothing "wrong" with it, as this thread reports.
     
  19. FarmerTed

    FarmerTed Pundit (928) May 31, 2011 Colorado

    I saw one poured out, after about half of it was tried by two people. I smelled it. You'd have to be smell-deaf not to realize the beer was complete shit.
     
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  20. bcarter

    bcarter Initiate (0) Nov 17, 2014 Michigan

    I shared with a group of six people or so. Nobody could stand to drink more than 2 sips before the bottle got dumped. The reviews in this thread are not an exaggeration.
     
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