Grey, muddled color in hoppy beer?

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  1. Bdalik

    Bdalik Initiate (0) Feb 1, 2015 New Jersey

    I just brewed a Motueka single hop pale with the following grist.

    84% Marris Otter
    5% Flaked Oat
    5% Flaked Barley
    3% Carapils
    3% White Wheat

    And I got great mouthfeel and flavor, but the color seems to be this muddled grey. DId I overdo it on the flakes? Not sure why it looks this way. Any advice is greatly appreciated.
     
  2. CavemanBrau

    CavemanBrau Initiate (0) Apr 5, 2013 Iowa

    Should've added some crystal, C-10, C-15 or C-20, for some color. Around 8-16 oz. SRM is going to be super low with that grist. But if it tastes good, you must have a nice base to start with and you can make little tweaks to get what you actually want.
     
  3. GetMeAnIPA

    GetMeAnIPA Pooh-Bah (2,559) Mar 28, 2009 California
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    I personally wouldn't add any crystal to an IPA especially if the base malt is Marris otter.

    You failed to mentioned the yeast, hop amounts and schedule. As well as your process, such as fermentation temp, length, conditioning, bottled or conditioned?

    Adding the flakes would add some haze but wouldn't expect it to be that great or muddled.

    Maybe the wheat added to a Marris otter base with a lot of yeast in suspension would give you that gray muddled color.
     
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  4. runbirddrinkbeer

    runbirddrinkbeer Pooh-Bah (1,722) Oct 24, 2009 Florida
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    Yeah, I've pushed flaked adjuncts considerably higher than the OP and confoundingly ended up with a pretty clear beer before(looked and tasted like a tasty west coast ipa!)... Like@Brew Betty said, '(I) must know how to brew'! So adjuncts are not the sole issue with haze...

    I agree, many other things might have contributed to the OP's muddled grey beer....
     
  5. Bdalik

    Bdalik Initiate (0) Feb 1, 2015 New Jersey

    I used 2 packs of 6 month old Omega Yeast Labs equivalent to Wyeast 1098. Hops were added at 60, 15, 0 and steep. Total of 8 oz in all. Fermented at about ~70-72. Conditioned in keg. Ive gotten this greyness before in my hoppy ales. I'm thinking if I use 2-row and pull back on the wheat and maybe add a low lovibond crystal, I should be in better shape.
     
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  6. IDONTWANAPICKLE

    IDONTWANAPICKLE Initiate (0) Nov 17, 2015 New York

    I'm experiencing this with my latest NEIPA - simple 77/23 pale/flaked oats grist w/ London III. I dry hopped directly into the fermenter without a bag using a conical fermenter.

    My theory was it is the hop residue still settling out of suspension or lack of colorful adjuncts
     
  7. GetMeAnIPA

    GetMeAnIPA Pooh-Bah (2,559) Mar 28, 2009 California
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    Post a pic.
     
  8. BeboThoughts

    BeboThoughts Zealot (559) Mar 24, 2012 Canada (ON)
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    The times I've had a grey or almost purple beer have been from oxidation. May not be relevant but it could help to post your process.
     
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  9. inkman15

    inkman15 Zealot (614) Oct 28, 2013 New Jersey
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    This has happened to me but only post-bottling. My Galaxy/Nelson IPA went from a beautiful straw color to a purplish muddy mess when I opened a bottle after 2 weeks of bottle conditioning/carb.

    Like @BeboThoughts , I chalk this up to oxidization during bottling even though I'm always careful to avoid splashing etc. I can't explain it any other way.

    Was your beer one color at the beginning and then something else later?
     
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