Growler Capping Redesign

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by jparizo, Jun 23, 2015.

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  1. jparizo

    jparizo Initiate (0) Jan 16, 2011 Indiana

    Is a metal cap on a glass growler/howler really the best we can do to preserve our beer?
    In this day and age with all the technological advances all around us, I would think the standard growler would have a better mechanism to protect beer and make it last longer than a few days (pre-opening).
    In the short term, I'd think a flip top (like Grolsch) would work.
    If somebody designs a cost effective capping system, it would probably be worthwhile.
    What am I missing?
     
  2. DarkerTheBetter

    DarkerTheBetter Pooh-Bah (2,295) Sep 30, 2005 Minnesota
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    This has been done.
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    The tall one in the back is also 2L, which means you usually get a few more ounces for the price of a fill.
     
  3. Ranbot

    Ranbot Pooh-Bah (2,463) Nov 27, 2006 Pennsylvania
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  4. maltmaster420

    maltmaster420 Initiate (0) Aug 17, 2005 Oregon

  5. 2Xmd

    2Xmd Initiate (0) Apr 19, 2013 New York

    Find a place/brewery with a counter-pressure system and u will never want a plain metal capped growler fill again. A lot of places fill wrong (not letting the beer foam over to save money) and by the time u get home and open the growler, it's flat.
     
  6. jparizo

    jparizo Initiate (0) Jan 16, 2011 Indiana

    Nice growler collection. Glad to see some places are using the flip cap.

    Ranbot: that is a cool invention, but I don't think I'm about to drop $129. If anything I'd pick up the hydroflask from Greenbush for $55, which looks pretty solid.
    http://shop.greenbushbrewing.com/collections/stuff/products/hydroflask-growler
     
  7. CheapHysterics

    CheapHysterics Initiate (0) Apr 1, 2009 Pennsylvania

    screw-top lids have a gasket in them that seals with the glass rim on the growler and is kept compressed by tightening the lid. flip-tops have a gasket on the stopper that does the same thing but is kept compressed by a lever. The flip-top is by far cooler to look at and to operate, but I can't imagine it provides any advantages over a screw-top as far as preserving beer goes. Am I missing something?
     
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  8. Ranbot

    Ranbot Pooh-Bah (2,463) Nov 27, 2006 Pennsylvania
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    Here is a similar vacuum insulated stainless steel 64-oz growler for $33. I own this one; it works well and is easy to clean. http://amzn.com/B00AZMICOY
    Edit: Also the newer barrel version with more color options: http://amzn.com/B00E63TI32

    Unless I'm drinking with friends, finishing a whole growler in one evening is not likely to happen. I usually recap my growlers and finish it the next day, but I do detect the oxidation and some loss of carbonation by then. The uKeg should stop the oxidation/carbonation issue completely. I understand people's hesitation at the $129 price tag, but my wife ordered me a uKeg as a Christmas gift, so that's a done deal! :wink: The only thing I'm concerned about with the uKeg is how easily it can be cleaned.
     
  9. charlzm

    charlzm Initiate (0) Sep 3, 2007 California

    Palla growlers are my favorite.
     
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  10. BaseballNBeer

    BaseballNBeer Crusader (490) Apr 22, 2015 Michigan
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    I love my DuClaw growler! It's the first one I fill when I'm getting fills.
     
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  11. BaseballNBeer

    BaseballNBeer Crusader (490) Apr 22, 2015 Michigan
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    I have only personal experience to base this on. My flip-tops seem to keep the beer longer than my screw-tops. This is especially true once I've poured my first glass.
     
  12. CheapHysterics

    CheapHysterics Initiate (0) Apr 1, 2009 Pennsylvania

    If you've used both and noticed flip-tops work better then I don't doubt what you're saying, but I'm still curious as to why they would work better.
     
  13. jparizo

    jparizo Initiate (0) Jan 16, 2011 Indiana

    The only non-scientific explanation I can think of is that the caps I've seen have a very small gasket (if you can even call it that) vs. the thicker rubber of a flip top. I would think the flip top mechanism not only creates more pressure than screwing a cap by hand, but also creates a better seal with the extra rubber.
     
  14. MVP09

    MVP09 Initiate (0) Oct 19, 2012 Massachusetts

    I feel like the original glass growler will be a thing of the past. Some of these aluminum and plastic growlers that can be vaccum sealed seem to make way more sense.
     
  15. DaveAnderson

    DaveAnderson Initiate (0) Jan 11, 2011 Minnesota

    I don't think you ever want a beer that has been vacuum-sealed. Pressurized with CO2 would be better.
     
  16. Zonk

    Zonk Initiate (0) Dec 2, 2014 New Jersey

    Just curious, what would be the disadvantage of vacuum sealing? Loss of carbonation?
     
  17. soughtbygod

    soughtbygod Initiate (0) Apr 27, 2011 California

  18. ashellen

    ashellen Crusader (449) Mar 26, 2009 Virginia

    if you want to keep your screw top for a while, just tighten the cap down as best you can and the wrap some electrical tape around the cap and bottle to double seal it.

    I learned this in AZ when they had to do that to satisfy the open container laws.
     
  19. jparizo

    jparizo Initiate (0) Jan 16, 2011 Indiana

  20. Cameron_como

    Cameron_como Initiate (0) Jan 31, 2015 Missouri

    I think you meant vacuum insulated growlers, not vacuum sealed. A good container should have the headspace filled with CO2 and as free of O2 as possible. Vacuum insulated double wall containers are great and are far better than solid insulation like foam or a classic koozie.
     
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