Growlers, State laws and a possible workaround?

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  1. Jwale73

    Jwale73 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,954) Aug 15, 2007 Rhode Island
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    As I continue to watch my collection of growlers grow on a regular basis, I have to ask the question:
    Has anyone (e.g. A brewery) ever sold a blank growler with a removable/reusable static cling decal? I feel like this is a no brainer. Thoughts/feasibility? Would probably work for both glass and stainless applications.
     
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  2. HRamz3

    HRamz3 Initiate (0) Feb 9, 2010 Pitcairn

    Admittedly, I'm not a "growler guy". But if I understand correctly, the lbrewery label is required by state law? If so, I don't think a "static cling" label would meet the requirement.
     
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  3. rozzom

    rozzom Pooh-Bah (2,596) Jan 22, 2011 New York
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    Generally my collection grows because I see something I want to buy a growler of, yet I am sans growler at the time. So don't think this would solve that (at least not for me).
     
  4. PSU_Mike

    PSU_Mike Initiate (0) Sep 6, 2013 Pennsylvania

    Yes, I have one. I got it at Wagner Valley brewery in Ithica, NY. The beer was only so so but I wanted the growler. I'll try and find a pic.
     
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  5. Jwale73

    Jwale73 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,954) Aug 15, 2007 Rhode Island
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    Why couldn't a brewery just produce and sell a reusable static cling of their logo? It would still be labeled. Unless individual law specifies it has to be permanently affixed to the container.
     
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  7. Rekrule

    Rekrule Initiate (0) Nov 11, 2011 Massachusetts

    Blue Lobster in NH would 'Rebrand' other people's growlers in a similar fashion to what you mentioned. Thats the only one I've ever seen do it. These growler laws are ridiculous.
     
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  8. Giantspace

    Giantspace Pooh-Bah (2,941) Dec 22, 2011 Pennsylvania
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    Dock street puts a paper dock street label over the print on the growler you bring in.

    Enjoy
     
  9. augiecarton

    augiecarton Initiate (0) Oct 22, 2010 New Jersey

    We created a paper label that matches our approved growler label (including the pregnant warning the feds really care about). When people come in with a non-carton growler we stick it on. its the simplest paper so you can get it off easy if it was a really cool growler you didn't want to mar. It makes everyone involved within the laws as interpreted in NJ.
    In the long run it costs about a buck more to fill someone else's growler but we really like the growler culture which we feel would fall apart if everyone had to own a growler per place, so we eat it.
     
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  10. Jwale73

    Jwale73 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,954) Aug 15, 2007 Rhode Island
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    That is really cool of you. Personally, if I knew the service was available, I'd be willing to pay a buck or two for the label.
     
  11. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,294) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    Here in WA, we can fill any resealable container for use as a growler. For instance, you can fill a 20oz coke or juice bottle, as long as you remove the original label (can't have the childrens thinking your IPA is apple juice now can we?). Pop bottles, milk jugs, nalgene bottles, and ziplock bags are all things I've seen, or had, filled. So, obviously, filling another breweries growler isn't an issue up here.
     
  12. augiecarton

    augiecarton Initiate (0) Oct 22, 2010 New Jersey

    if it ever gets to the point where its hundreds of dollars a weekend we probably will do something like that, but so far its probably 25-50$ a weekend. the hope is the rules get more sensible before then.
     
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  13. reefer_bob

    reefer_bob Savant (1,010) May 13, 2014 California
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    I've often wondered about taking my Nalgene bottles into a brewery. A 32oz wide mouth would be perfect!

    I'm assuming my nor-cal breweries wouldn't think much of it at all... :stuck_out_tongue:

    I do want to buy one of these:
    http://www.lifelinefirstaid.com/product/144
     
  14. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    There's so much variability in state laws on this that one person's situation in Rhode Island won't apply to PA.

    For example in PA if there is a description of the beer or mention of the brewery on the label usually people won't refill it with just any old beer. At least one brewery I've heard of does use a paper label to cover the old. Some establishments won't even refill their own growlers. They accept your old one as a trade in and then give you one they are sure is clean. Also since they are in at least 3 states they have threed somewhat or slightly different sets of rules to follow.
     
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  15. jefffalcone

    jefffalcone Initiate (0) Nov 9, 2013 Massachusetts

    two questions.
    why does it cost a buck more? are the labels that much or is there additional costs?
     
  16. augiecarton

    augiecarton Initiate (0) Oct 22, 2010 New Jersey

    i think exactly the labels are .93c a piece so with shipping and your general rounding up, a buck?
     
  17. pjs234

    pjs234 Maven (1,453) Jun 29, 2008 Connecticut

    Some of the labeling requirements under the growler laws are misinterpreted. In CT, the statute seems to read that growler sales are just the purchase of a pre-filled growler from a brewery or package store. The act of bringing in an empty growler and having the brewery fill said growler with the beer of your choosing is just the sale of beer in a large container and no different that ordering a pint from a bartender and accordingly, does not require a label on the growler. Most of the breweries in our state fully understand this, though there is one brewery (2roads) that insists they are required by law to affix a gigantic 2roads stick on any growler they fill. They may actually know it is not required and it may just be a marketing ploy.... either way... whatever.
     
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  18. spicoli00

    spicoli00 Pooh-Bah (2,293) Jul 6, 2005 Indiana
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    I have the one with the slightly more sloping neck (http://www.amazon.com/Lifeline-7500WH-White-Stainless-Growler/dp/B00BJHS6TA). Got it as a christmas gift. It's awesome. highly recommend. only downside is that it's hard to tell exactly how much is left in the container.

    And to OP, isn't stainless steel non-magnetic?
     
  19. Jwale73

    Jwale73 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,954) Aug 15, 2007 Rhode Island
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    I hear what you are saying and appreciate the complexity. I'm thinking more from the perspective of applying a vinyl static cling of an approved label to an unbranded vessel. Obviously, for this to work best, it would require coordination amongst brewers. Potentially less cost to the brewery with regards to screening, and if there were a consortium who adopted this. Potentially less glass inventory required on-hand.
     
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  20. Jwale73

    Jwale73 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,954) Aug 15, 2007 Rhode Island
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    I'm not sure it would matter. I'm thinking those vinyl window-type clings. Usually some moisture or condensation helps the adhesion. Regardless, glass tends to be the norm anyway.
     
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