Guide for adding pictures to the forums and database

Discussion in 'Support' started by Snowcrash000, Feb 5, 2022.

  1. Snowcrash000

    Snowcrash000 Grand Pooh-Bah (5,857) Oct 4, 2017 Germany
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    Let's face it, adding pictures to BA is a bit more complicated than most people are probably used to. While this is something that we plan to improve in the future, in the meantime I wanted to help people out with this handy guide on adding pictures to the forums and database, which are two entirely different processes. I should probably note that I'm using desktop, but the web-based services should work just as well on mobile, I guess.

    So first off, here's how to add a picture to your post in the forums. In order to do this, you must first host the image on an image hosting website. There are many of these, but Postimage and Imgur are probably the most popular ones, although I find Postimage much more intuitive to use personally.

    Another way to go is to join us on Discord and post your picture there. You can then easily copy that picture into the forums as well. To learn how to join Discord, please check out this link:

    https://www.beeradvocate.com/community/threads/how-to-join-beeradvocate-on-discord.660233/

    Postimage:

    1. Go to: https://postimages,org
    2. Click on "Choose images".
    3. Select the image that you want to upload.
    4. Go to "Hotlink for forums".
    5. Simply copy it and paste that link right into the forum text box.

    Imgur:

    1. Go to: https://imgur.com
    2. Click New Post in the upper Right next to the Imgur logo.
    3. Upload your picture on the next page.
    4. Hover your mouse over the picture and click on the ellipsis (...).
    5. Click "Get Share Links".
    6. Copy the link for BBCode (Forums).
    7. Simply paste this link right into the forum text box.

    Discord:

    • Open Discord
    • Go to the #wbaydn channel.
    • Upload your image (and a quick note, just like WBAYDN on BA) and post it.
    • Desktop: Control + click on the image > Copy Link.
    • App: (sometimes the first option doesn't appear).
      • Long press the image > scroll down > Copy Media Link.
      • Tap the image > select "..." > Share > Copy.
    • On BA, click the image icon in the posting tool, paste the image URL.

    If you wish to add a GIF to a forum post, simply upload it to Postimages just like you would a picture (needs to be a .gif file) or, if you don't have it saved, follow the simple steps below to link to it directly:

    1. Right-click on the GIF that you wish to add.
    2. Select "Copy Image Address".
    3. Select "Image" from the posting options task bar.
    4. Paste the link into the box and select "Insert".


    Here's how to add images to the database, which is a much more complicated process, but really not that bad once you get the hang of it. There are basically two ways to do it, image editing websites like Resize Your Image or image editing software like Paint.NET. Both of these are free and don't require registration, although you will have to download the editing software if you don't already have one installed.

    There are many image editing websites around, but Resize Your Image is clearly the most intuitive and easy way to do it in my opinion, while also affording zoom and frame options that other sites lack. However, I think that in the long run using image editing software really pays off because it gives you additional options and is even faster once you get used to it. So I will go over both options here, using Paint.NET as my editing software of choice because I find it very easy to use compared to more complicated options.


    Resize Your Image:

    1. Go to https://resizeyourimage.com
    2. Click on "Choose File".
    3. Select the image that you want to resize.
    4. Set "Width" to "150" and Height to "300".
    5. "Zoom" in and out as necessary.
    6. Center the can/bottle by moving the frame around as necessary.
    7. Click on "Resize".
    8. Adjust "Quality" until the file size is as close to 20 KB as possible without going over.
    9. Right-click on the image and select "Save Image As".

    Paint.NET:

    1. Select "File" > "Open" to select the image you want to resize. (Ctrl+O)
    2. Select "Rectangular Select" from the tools menu in the top left corner, it is the top left option (S).
    3. From the tool bar just above the tools menu, click on the arrow next to "Normal" to select "Fixed Size".
    4. From the tool bar, click on the arrow next to "inches" to select "pixels".
    5. Set "Width" and "Height" to values appropriate to the size of your image. Just try a random value first and adjust as needed. IMPORTANT: "Height" always needs to be exactly twice the value of "Width".
    6. Please note that the above steps only need to be performed once for multiple images, as the software remembers these values, as opposed to RYI.
    7. OPTIONAL: Select "Adjustments" > "Brightness/Contrast" to improve image quality (Ctrl+Shift+C).
    8. Click on the image to bring up the frame and move it around as needed to center the can/bottle.
    9. Select "Image" > "Crop to Selection" (Ctrl+Shift+X).
    10. Select "Image" > "Resize" (Ctrl+R).
    11. Set "Width" to "150" and "Height" to "300". This can simply be done by typing "150" and hitting enter as this field is preselected and will automatically set height to twice the value of width.
    12. Select "File" > "Save As" (Ctrl+Shift+S).
    13. Choose a file name and hit enter.
    14. Adjust "Quality" until the file size is as close to 20 KB as spossible without going over. This can simply be done with the "Up" and "Down" arrow keys (inverted) and hitting return.

    I used to use RYI exclusively because it really is a very intuitive and easy to use solution that doesn't require you to download anything. However, when the site went down for multiple days a while ago I switched to PN and haven' t looked back since. It may take some time to get into, but is ultimately faster for multiple pictures because of keyboard shortcuts and remembering all the values. It takes me 45 seconds to do a picture in RYI and 30 seconds to do one in PN.

    Not to mention that you are not at the mercy of the internet and your connection speed with PN and have the option to enhance your images. Of course other, perhaps more popular, sites like Gimp or Photoshop will work just as well, I just find them a lot more complicated and less intuitive to use

    In any case, I hope that this will be helpful to some people, if you have any questions, please let me know.

    Many thanks @LarryV and @Todd for the instructions on how to use Imgur and Discord.
     
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  2. Amendm

    Amendm Pooh-Bah (2,305) Jun 7, 2018 Rhode Island
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    Adding Images to the Database, is this the way to add a picture to a new or existing Beer? Thanks in advance and nice work.
     
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  3. Snowcrash000

    Snowcrash000 Grand Pooh-Bah (5,857) Oct 4, 2017 Germany
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    Pretty much, yeah, and thanks!
     
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  4. Spade

    Spade Pooh-Bah (1,824) Mar 27, 2006 Pennsylvania
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    Thanks. I've been battling computer demons trying to add photos to the database, so I'll try the method you described.
     
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  5. beer_beer

    beer_beer Pooh-Bah (2,115) Feb 13, 2018 Finland
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    Nice you started the thread, Snowcrash! I like to add an image to every beer I add/rate, if there isn't any. Nice Resize Your Image works, somehow I have started to use this: https://resizeimage.net/, not quite as intuitive, but would guess one of the better.
     
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  6. Bitterbill

    Bitterbill Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,772) Sep 14, 2002 Wyoming
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  7. TrojanRB

    TrojanRB Grand Pooh-Bah (3,185) Jul 27, 2013 Texas
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    Great guide, thanks for taking the time to write.

    I miss the glory days when we could share straight from Instagram
     
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  8. BigIronH

    BigIronH Grand Pooh-Bah (3,718) Oct 31, 2019 Michigan
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    I’m not sure how your photos are turning out but I used that for a while and was contacted by a mod stating that my photos were coming through blurry. Just a heads up. Cheers.
     
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  9. officerbill

    officerbill Pooh-Bah (2,228) Feb 9, 2019 New York
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    When you add a picture to the database try to crop it into a rectangle roughly twice as high as it is wide before resizing; otherwise you can end up with misshapened bottles & cans or pictures that are too small to read.
     
  10. Snowcrash000

    Snowcrash000 Grand Pooh-Bah (5,857) Oct 4, 2017 Germany
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    As stated in the guide, height needs to be exactly twice the value of width, or the image will become warped.
     
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  11. beer_beer

    beer_beer Pooh-Bah (2,115) Feb 13, 2018 Finland
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    With below 20kb I guess they are always a bit blurry :grin:, but doing my best!
     
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  12. Peach63

    Peach63 Pooh-Bah (2,118) Jul 17, 2019 New York
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    Thanks. I printed out these instructions and will give it a try next time I try to add a picture to the database. My previous attempts had me pounding my head against the wall in frustration.
     
  13. chipawayboy

    chipawayboy Pooh-Bah (1,917) Oct 26, 2007 Massachusetts
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    Early candidate for thread of the year -- just like the last thread on this topic. And I suspect there will continue to be new threads covering the complex rubiks cube that is posting photos to BA since BA "isn't the business of storing photos" and hosting service come and go like the wind. Anybody use mini pic? Gone last year and all the photos hosted on it went poof. Why there isn't an easy click button on the BA front page ("current instructions on posting photos" may I suggest?) is beyond me.
     
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  14. BigIronH

    BigIronH Grand Pooh-Bah (3,718) Oct 31, 2019 Michigan
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    https://www.adobe.com/express/feature/image/resize

    Use this if you’re on a mobile device. Takes seconds. Upload photo from your camera roll, select “Custom” under size options(150Wx300H) and download. Voila. 90% of the time the files come in at under 20 kb and don’t require resizing. Also, the quality is excellent as well. Cheers.
     
  15. Snowcrash000

    Snowcrash000 Grand Pooh-Bah (5,857) Oct 4, 2017 Germany
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    I've tried this on desktop and it won't accept a 1:2 ratio for me, meaning that it always auto-adjusts the width/height values to fit its prerequisites. So when I enter 150:300 it automatically changes that to 225:300. I also find the picture quality to be very poor.

    Maybe it works better on a mobile device, but I cannot get it to work from desktop. Have you double-checked that it actually retains the 150:300 ratio when using it from mobile?
     
  16. BigIronH

    BigIronH Grand Pooh-Bah (3,718) Oct 31, 2019 Michigan
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    It allows me to upload them to BA so I imagine it does retain the 150 to 300 because I don’t believe you can upload unless they are 150 to 300. Correct me if I’m wrong.
     
  17. Snowcrash000

    Snowcrash000 Grand Pooh-Bah (5,857) Oct 4, 2017 Germany
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    Yeah, that's correct. Weird that it doesn't work on desktop for me, but seems like a great option for mobile. It probably has something to do with the native ratio, I guess.
     
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  18. bbtkd

    bbtkd Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,326) Sep 20, 2015 South Dakota
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    I take pics on my phone, share to my DropBox service public directory, it instantly appears on my laptop where I use the free version of PhotoScape X to level, crop, and adjust brightness, if needed. Then I copy the DropBox link, paste it as an image URL in forum postings, and edit it slight, changing "dl=0" to "raw=1". I can do this all on my phone, editing with Android Gallery, but it's more tedious.

    To upload beer/place pics, I follow the same process, but reducing the dimension ratio properly, reducing the size to 13k, and uploading. If I go much over 13k in size, BA rejects it, saying it's over 20k. Could be PhotoScape calculating the size differently.
     
  19. Bshaw22

    Bshaw22 Initiate (0) Aug 29, 2013 Wisconsin
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    Adding a picture to the database is hilariously complicated. I am married with 4 kids. I should be ashamed of myself if I ever spend my time doing this…
     
  20. mactrail

    mactrail Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,253) Mar 24, 2009 Washington
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    thankful I still have Photoshop and a laptop