Guinness Nitro IPA?

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by Punisher1976, Sep 21, 2015.

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  1. LuskusDelph

    LuskusDelph Initiate (0) May 1, 2008 New Jersey

    I see your point except for one thing: there are really no true IPAs being made these days anyway.
     
  2. donspublic

    donspublic Grand Pooh-Bah (3,552) Aug 4, 2014 Texas
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    I don't think they were going for a real bitter beer, thus the nitro. This might be a good entry IPA beer for some. I pretty much welcome anything nowadays and will gladly try it. Anyone who is trying to make a smooth drinkable beer is probably not going to bash you over the head with IBU's
     
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  3. RobertColianni

    RobertColianni Pooh-Bah (1,789) Nov 4, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    You don't know what a Bitter is or why it would be relevant to a British nitrogenated IPA, do you?
     
  4. donspublic

    donspublic Grand Pooh-Bah (3,552) Aug 4, 2014 Texas
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    I think there is a misunderstanding here, my point was this wasn't going to be of the American style of IPA that slaps you in the face. I think most people that don't like the American style IPA will find this more to their liking
     
  5. Yargamo

    Yargamo Initiate (0) Jun 9, 2015 New York

    Neither is "sour" which is FAR more utilized in discussions here. "Pub Ale" is marketing - but the effect it is trying to drive without screaming it, is that it will pour and settle to a soft creamy ale.

    I think you know that, but for some reason you are too upset about what Boddingtons has done to you.

    BTW, what has Boddingtons done to you?
     
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  6. charlzm

    charlzm Initiate (0) Sep 3, 2007 California

    Nitro + IPA = fail.

    Every time I have had a craft IPA on nitro, it has a smoother mouthfeel and more muted flavors as compared to the normal CO2 version. Same story with cask for IPAs.

    Works great for some styles, but not IPAs.


    YMMV, IMHO, ETC...
     
  7. marquis

    marquis Pooh-Bah (2,313) Nov 20, 2005 England
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    Boddington's is not just a poor beer, it is a beer that once was iconic and went down your throat singing hymns. Then the bean counters got to work.Canned nitro Boddies is to me well nigh undrinkable.
    Boddie's isn't just poor beer , it's a tragedy.
     
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  8. billandsuz

    billandsuz Pooh-Bah (2,097) Sep 1, 2004 New York
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    I've said it before. Nitro is the third rail of BA.

    it's not cool to bash macro lager. because everyone is entitled to their own personal taste, right? not so with Nitro faucet beer. the so called Real Ale crowd can't miss an opportunity to cry about the way beer is supposed to be, how Nitro is a dumb marketing gimmick, nitro fucks up all beer blah blah blah. holy crap it's old. it was old last year when we had this discussion.

    never mind that the vast majority, and i do mean vast majority of BA contributors have very little knowledge about how nitro works. it doesn't matter though. anyone who likes it (apparently a lot of folks judging by the success of Guinness and a bunch more) is simply misguided and must be told that it is bad.

    adding oak to beer, great. berries, sure. chocolate, no problem. coffee, check. nitrogen? why do you hate babies?
    Cheers
     
  9. GreesyFizeek

    GreesyFizeek Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,026) Mar 6, 2013 New York
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    Didn't like either of them, but it's me, and your taste is you. Luckily, I don't have to drink with your palate, and you don't have to drink with mine.
     
  10. stonermouse

    stonermouse Pundit (877) Aug 16, 2006 Massachusetts

    Not for nothing, but it's funny that there's a thread about craft beer "jumping the shark," and another regarding a Guiness nitro IPA, both on appearing on the front page at the same time.
     
  11. Yargamo

    Yargamo Initiate (0) Jun 9, 2015 New York

    I'm with billandsuze above - but agree, its best that our palates will never mingle
     
  12. Yargamo

    Yargamo Initiate (0) Jun 9, 2015 New York

    Why? An old relic of a brewery introducing an even older style of beer on a system that they put on the map? Seems crazy that Guinness waited this long
     
  13. stonermouse

    stonermouse Pundit (877) Aug 16, 2006 Massachusetts

    Perhaps they should hire a couple monks to barrel age it in sherry, bourbon, and scotch casks, and release it in a newfangled 10.3oz 7-pack. That'll wrangle in the hipster beeries.
     
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  14. F2brewers

    F2brewers Maven (1,432) Mar 12, 2005 Massachusetts
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    Back on topic please.

    Don't feed the trolls.
     
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  15. Oldstate

    Oldstate Initiate (0) Jul 10, 2014 Pennsylvania

    Just had one. Tastes like a original British IPA...as opposed to the American hop bombs of the last 10 years. Nitro is appropriate for any British style beer that was from the era of cask conditioned beers served with a hand pump.

    I would like to see more authentic interpretations of IPA in this far far far over represented style
     
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  16. AngryDutchman

    AngryDutchman Zealot (693) Aug 8, 2015 Pennsylvania

    I had a Brit friend 20+ years ago who brought over nitro-charged cans of ESB and we thought it was exceptional. Can't remember who the brewer was, though.
     
  17. marquis

    marquis Pooh-Bah (2,313) Nov 20, 2005 England
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    It had to be Fuller's.
    No other UK brewer would put "ESB" on a label. Fuller's tried to trademark the name but it was considered to be "too generic" ( "extra", "special" and "bitter" don't confer anything unique)
    Why our American friends regard ESB as a style is a puzzle. It's merely a bitter (alias Pale Ale) towards the stronger end of the spectrum.
     
  18. Oldstate

    Oldstate Initiate (0) Jul 10, 2014 Pennsylvania

    I have to admit, as a longtime Guinness fan I am a bit sad to see them releasing these gimmicky styles. I understand the pressure to bring new products to market, but jumping on the IPA thing when it "jumped the shark" a few years ago seems kind of beneath them.

    Bring back a porter or something non IPA and historically associated with that region of the world. Hopefully American taste buds haven't totally been destroyed but excessive hop oil and the equally ridiculous hot sauce craze to appreciate it.
     
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  19. marquis

    marquis Pooh-Bah (2,313) Nov 20, 2005 England
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    Living in a land where well kept cask is easy to find and the same beer is often available in cask, bottled, kegged,canned and nitro versions it's easy to compare the differnt serving methods.
    Yes, there is a large element of personal taste involved but the following observations become palpably obvious;
    Nitro fully earns its disdain because of the massive muting effect on flavours and artificial mouthfeel.
    Keg still dumbs down flavours (or at least doesn't let them develop) but gives a bright, gassy and metallic character to the beer.
    Cask begins its life with about the same flavours as bottled but over time puts on weight and complexity, becoming almost a different beer , so much so that bottled beer is generally regarded as a pale shadow of its cask brother. This is realised by the many brewers who make the bottled/canned versions stronger to try to compensate for the flavour loss.
     
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  20. Urk1127

    Urk1127 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,790) Jul 2, 2014 New Jersey
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    I picked up a six pack. Its definitely an "english" style IPA. Its not a hop bomb at all and even considerably less hop profile than even a pale ale. Its so completely balanced between hop and malt with just a touch of hops. Its very tasty actually but ill have to re review it because i dont remember much of it because that was a day i over did it.
     
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