Gulden Draak a Dark Tripel? C'mon!

Love your review and couldn't agree more. I've tried it on several occasions and it's been awful every time.

 

Thanks. As I just said in another thread, I finished the bugger and I now want to spew! Fucking hideous!

 

Let’s worry about thing that matter, like defeating ISIS or that Hello Kitty is not really a cat according to the creator.

 

It certainly deserves a category of its own. I'm still retching! The hell!!!!!

 

Jesus, even a Weihensthepaner Hefe couldn't restore my palate. This has ruined beer for me.

 

Henrick Verlinden brewed (perhaps) the first commercial Tripel (Witkap Pater) while working at Drie Linden. He was simultaneously consulting with Westmalle on developing their Super Bier, which was released in 1934 and renamed Tripel (with a slight recipe change) in 1956. Unfortunately there is no consensus on when the Witkap was first brewed, Michael Jackson thought that the Witkap preceded the Westmalle, but other writers think otherwise.

 

It's still the scottish ale yeast, albeit only a couple of strains now and no doubt it's changed over time since they got it.

Scottish ales also got their colour from dark sugars/caramel, which is a bit like how stronger dark belgian beers get theirs too, nowadays at least

I guess we wouldn't know unless someone comes up with the recipe for the dark duvel. I know strong scotch ales were popular in belgium then

I can't remember trying gulden draak, but now having seen a few polar opposite views on it in this thread I think I will seek it out

 

What do you think? I was always inclined to go with Westmalle, but it's all a bit vague (unlike the case of La Trappe Quadrupel!) and before today didn't know about Witkap.

 

I lean toward Witkap. It would make more sense for Westmalle to ask him to teach them how to brew a new style that he had just developed than for them to come up with an idea but need someone to actually create it, at least to me.

Edit: Allaboutbeer.com gives the date of 1932 as the release of Witkap Pater, two years before the release of Westmalle Superbier, but also says that they were working on their own recipe as early as 1931. Still murky.

 

This thread has now made me want to seek this beer out. Had one maybe 5-6 years ago and don't recall what I thought of it.

 

From Wiki (I know) under History "Tim Webb in his Good Beer Guide to Belgium says that some of the pre-1956 beers called Tripel were dark."