Have not seen either of those 2 yet, but today these were new at my local Kroger: Karbach Oktoberfest and Weihenstephaner Oktoberfest. They are 2 of the very best festbiers you can buy.
Thanks for the response. Love both beers. Will be picking them up. But the former two are my all time favorites. Cheers.
Hacker Pschorr beers have been scarce in Houston the past few years. Not sure what the problem is given that BEK carries them.