Had my first Cantillon's...

As I just mentioned, I think Cascade's complexity comes through in the variety of "stronger" flavors that come through. You'll taste a beer and go through a series of "vanilla, cherry, fig, port, bourbon, sweet lemonade, grape, etc." in a single beer. Whereas while drinking a Cantillon beer, the flavors are much more subdued and delicate.

I'm not saying Cascade is better than Cantillon, I am just trying to point out different views on the word "complexity."

 

i understand and agree with you - i was more taking a playful shot at cascade than i was at anyone in the thread. also - i enjoy some cascade beers, but i wouldnt ever put them on the same level as anything made by cantillon.

 

i don't think there's any way to argue that cascade's wild ales are more complex than even the most common cantillon (bold flavors or otherwise), but honestly i would prefer to drink the better cascade wild ales i've had than good belgian lambics. maybe it makes my palate a bit trashy and unrefined, but give me sang rouge any day.

 

Which LP? I assume it was the gueuze?

 

this is good - one less person looking to buy/trade for cantillon.

and fyi OP - cantillon produces lambic (fruit and gueuze predominately); not "sours".

 

I think american sours are a completely different thing. I love Cantillon more than a lot of other belgian sours and I wouldn't say that they lack complexity but I completely understand your point of view on the american sours. I haven't had any from cascade yet (hopefully soon) but russian river sours are delicious! Very different and very good. Better than cantillon? To some yes and to a lot of others no. It's really all about what you like and when spending that kind of money on beer, just grab the one that makes you happy.