Harsh Boozy DIPA

Discussion in 'Homebrewing' started by hoptualBrew, Oct 26, 2019.

Tags:
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. hoptualBrew

    hoptualBrew Initiate (0) May 29, 2011 Florida

    Preface:

    This was an experiment with yeast.

    1.078 OG
    Standard NEIPA recipe
    2 Row
    Flaked Oats
    Carafoam
    No kettle hops
    11 gallons to fermenter
    2 gallons to smaller fermenter

    Pitched 4 packets of rehydrated S-04 to the 11 gallons.
    Pitched 1 million/ml/P starter of WLP644 to 2 gallons.

    S-04 temp at 68F
    WLP644 temp at garage temp 85F

    Added 4oz Mosaic and joined the WLP644 to the 11 gallons S-04 on day 3, maintained 68F.

    Dry hopped twice more, 8 oz Pacifica, 8 oz Galaxy. Transferred to brite, carbed, and packaged.

    Tasting is boozy, harsh, deisel, fusel. My theory is adding the WLP644 at 3 days resulted in a lot of stress to those cells that then put out fusels.

    First time doing this. Perhaps should’ve done this on smaller scale before experimenting on a $100 recipe lol

    Any thoughts?!?!
     
    #1 hoptualBrew, Oct 26, 2019
  2. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
    Pooh-Bah

    Did you taste either portion before mixing them? I never used WLP644. White Labs lists its temp range as 70-85F. You said garage temp, which sounds like ambient/no controls? Did the temp get higher than 85? Did it rise and fall, which might be a stress on the yeast? What was the date on the Brett?
     
    #2 pweis909, Oct 26, 2019
  3. hoptualBrew

    hoptualBrew Initiate (0) May 29, 2011 Florida

    Garage temps probably got 82-84, tasted the combined after terminal and tasted good. Only after cold crashing and going to brite and carbing did it taste boozy.

    But, I used SO4. Maybe this dropped a lot of masking hop oils and flavor out of suspension?
     
    #3 hoptualBrew, Oct 26, 2019
  4. hoptualBrew

    hoptualBrew Initiate (0) May 29, 2011 Florida

    Garage temps probably got 82-84, tasted the combined after terminal and tasted good. Only after cold crashing and going to brite and carbing did it taste boozy.

    But, I used SO4. Maybe this dropped a lot of masking hop oils and flavor out of suspension?
     
    #4 hoptualBrew, Oct 26, 2019
  5. wasatchback

    wasatchback Pooh-Bah (1,574) Jan 12, 2014 Tajikistan
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    S04 at 68 can get a little hot and boozy, kinda lactic as well in my experience. I find it best at 64 for at least the first few days of fermentation. I don’t think it’s very forgiving of higher temps. Not sure I would have started 644 a that high of a temp right away either especially with a higher OG like that.
     
    #5 wasatchback, Oct 26, 2019
    hoptualBrew and skleice like this.
  6. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,635) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
    Pooh-Bah

    Diesel is often associated with NZ hops.
     
    #6 hopfenunmaltz, Oct 26, 2019
    hoptualBrew likes this.
  7. hoptualBrew

    hoptualBrew Initiate (0) May 29, 2011 Florida

    I guess this was just a combo of too hot fermentation temps and diesel NZ hops.

    I usually use LAIII which does nicely at 68F, even DIPA from my experience. Not a fan of S-04...
     
    #7 hoptualBrew, Oct 28, 2019
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.