Have a question about Tripels

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  1. DarkDragon999

    DarkDragon999 Maven (1,331) Feb 13, 2013 Rhode Island

    Ive seen tripels in 12oz bottles with caps and Ive seen them in large bottles with corks. Does it really make a difference which is better ?
     
  2. shnsajax

    shnsajax Initiate (0) Jul 2, 2013 Idaho

    I think most all Belgian's in general put corks and cages on 750's. To me it makes no difference outside of aging.
     
  3. DarkDragon999

    DarkDragon999 Maven (1,331) Feb 13, 2013 Rhode Island

    I had Victory Golden Monkey in the 12oz cap bottles and I had it in the bomber with the cork and cage and I enjoyed the 12oz bottle more and I thought I would enjoy the other one more. So I guess the corked bomber would be better than the capped bottle if it was aged but since I didnt age it it didnt matter.
     
  4. surfcaster

    surfcaster Initiate (0) Apr 20, 2013 North Carolina
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    Good question. I am not aware of anyone changing their recipe for caging a big bottle vs. capping a small one. Someone please educate me if so.

    If you are just getting into them, start with Westmalle 9--cork and cage. IMO and in many others, it is the absolutely one of the best representatives of the style.
     
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  5. StoutSnob40

    StoutSnob40 Grand Pooh-Bah (4,611) Jan 4, 2013 California
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    They could be capped with manure, and I'd still drink them.
     
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  6. DarkDragon999

    DarkDragon999 Maven (1,331) Feb 13, 2013 Rhode Island

    Well Im going to go with the Allagash Tripel because I had the Dubbel and its easy to find here.
     
  7. shnsajax

    shnsajax Initiate (0) Jul 2, 2013 Idaho

    St. Bernardus
     
  8. Zimbo

    Zimbo Pooh-Bah (2,305) Aug 7, 2010 Scotland
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    Westmalle. 750 ml or otherwise. Always a great choice.
     
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  9. Scrapss

    Scrapss Pooh-Bah (2,220) Nov 15, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    I would think the only significant difference might be how much you want to consume in one opening and how much yeast they pitch for bottle conditioning if they use that method.
     
  10. Roguer

    Roguer Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,811) Mar 25, 2013 Connecticut
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    St. B, Roche, Allagash, Chimay...they all cap the smaller bottles. Honestly, I prefer the cork and cage, if only for the visual satisfaction of having a beautiful presentation. I don't know if they make it any differently, but I will say that the couple of St. B small boys (capped, not corked) were super over-carbonated. Could be completely irrelevant for all I know.
     
  11. Smakawhat

    Smakawhat Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,191) Mar 18, 2008 Maryland
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  12. geocool

    geocool Savant (1,233) Jun 21, 2006 Massachusetts

    Years ago, the 12oz Allagash bottles for Dubbel and Tripel were force carbonated and had less carbonation than the 750ml bottles which were bottle carbonated. The distinction was even called out by different spelling of the beer name, with "Dubbel" on the 750ml cork and cage bottles, while the 12oz bottles were labelled "Double." These days, however, they are pretty much the same, though the 12oz bottles might still have a little less carbonation than the big bottles. This is documented in BLAM.

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  13. RaphaelSC

    RaphaelSC Initiate (0) Apr 2, 2013 Brazil


    Westmalle Trippel is my favourite beer, I think the 750ml corked is richer than 330ml caps. Normally the cork works in the third fermentation inside the bottle for all I know!
     
  14. Hop-Droppen-Roll

    Hop-Droppen-Roll Initiate (0) Nov 5, 2013 Minnesota

    I always thought the cork was just a fancy way of capping a bomber :confused:

    How does this affect aging? I'm aware of the wet cork/dry cork debate, what I'm wondering is if you store them differently.
     
  15. jmdrpi

    jmdrpi Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,989) Dec 11, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    With a larger bottle, there is less surface contact with the head space of the beer (which will eventually be infiltrated by oxygen) vs. the total volume of the beer. So most likely the beer is going to oxidize slower as it ages.
     
  16. shnsajax

    shnsajax Initiate (0) Jul 2, 2013 Idaho

    I think caps are more prone to oxidize over long periods of time and more importantly are more likely to let air in. Just a guess as I don't truely know the answer. Westy's are great at again and only come in 11.2 with a cap, so who knows.
     
  17. jtierney89

    jtierney89 Initiate (0) Aug 15, 2011 New Jersey

    I know a lot of breweries such as Weyerbacher and Victory bottle referment for a more natural carbonation with their cork and cage bottles which will produce a richer and creamier mouthfeel and carbonation when compared to the 12oz crowned bottles. When it comes to aging I personally like the cork and cage bottles better as the yeast the beer sits on in the bottle is going to add more complexity and yeasty notes as the beer sits.
     
  18. willbm3

    willbm3 Initiate (0) Feb 19, 2010 Massachusetts

    They could cork and cage a bottle of manure and I'd be stupid enough to buy it
     
  19. Hop-Droppen-Roll

    Hop-Droppen-Roll Initiate (0) Nov 5, 2013 Minnesota

    But how does this effect the cap/cork storage? Would you do anything different when storing a regular capped bottle versus a corked bottle?
     
  20. StoutSnob40

    StoutSnob40 Grand Pooh-Bah (4,611) Jan 4, 2013 California
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    Yeah, as long as it said "Limited Release" and "Tripel" on the label. I'm sold.

    ISO.
     
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