I was planing on making a rasberry saison and wanted to experiment with Rose Hips along with the raspberry . Anyone ever try using these ? should i steep in vodka and transfer or simple dry hop with them in secondary ? Here is the recepie 5 Gal 6 lb American - Wheat 38 1.8 54.5% 4 lb American - Pale 2-Row 37 1.8 36.4% 1 lb American - Caramel / Crystal 40L 0.6 oz Magnum Pellet 13.2 Boil 60 min 31.8 1 oz Belma Pellet 9.4 Boil 1 min 1.63 OG 1.057 Yeast will be wyeast french saison secondary add 400g frozen thawed raspberrys for 4 days ( add Rose hipps) Thanks
So a couple things... rose hips are pretty subtle, at least the wild ones I have forraged locally have been. Raspberries may overpower the rose hips, as will an especially pronounced yeast strain or higher aa flavor hop. Usually when I use fruit, or coffee, or anything that I want to showcase the flavor of, I build my beer around it. For subtle fruits, I like to use a neutral grist and minimal flavor hops. I brew a raspberry wit that utilizes a bit of magnum to bitter and no late additions. If you go saison, I would drop the belma for sure, and go easy on the raspberries. Raspberries are pretty aggressive.
Having never fruited a saison, I'd still say that 400g (0.8lb) isn't that much fruit for 5 gal of beer. I usually see about a pound per gallon on heavier styles for raspberries. @SFACRKnight is right that raspberries carry a very strong flavor for fruit and that rosehips probably wouldn't come past that. I'm the kind of person that would make a split batch. For science. 1/2 gets the raspberries and 1/2 gets the rose hips. I'd make a tea of both to drink it before anything.
i will isolate a 1G with just the rose hips , I was looking to have them in the far back row on the flavor profile i have brewed with raspberrys and i was thinking the slight rose flavor could round out the final flavor of raspbery on the pallet with some floral rose aroma and aftertaste at least its what im shooting for basicaly a kind of Raspbery Saison Ipa 'ish with rose hips Lol , if that makes any sens PS i will switch the belma for mosaic and add a little fruit punch flavor . Hope it does
Have you ever used rose hips before (not just in beer)? Just checking, because I have had some rose-hip tea (both commercial and from our own roses), and it didn't really taste like rose petals at all.
Here in Colorado they're known as chompes, and are used in jams. The flavor is so subtle if I used them they would be used alone. And they don't taste like rose at all.
