"Hazy Hefeweizens"

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by DarkDragon999, Apr 15, 2025.

  1. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Grand Pooh-Bah (3,242) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    It’s not, see my quoted post above.
     
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  2. crazyspicychef

    crazyspicychef Pooh-Bah (2,341) Sep 27, 2012 Pennsylvania
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    How do they get the classic hefeweizen banana clove notes using lager yeast? Fermenting it warm maybe?
    To me it sounds like a hazy wheat lager of sorts.
    Dang it, now I'm going to have to try one just to see how badly they bastardized a classic style in the name of "being different."
     
  3. crazyspicychef

    crazyspicychef Pooh-Bah (2,341) Sep 27, 2012 Pennsylvania
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    Don't give anyone any bad ideas!
     
  4. crazyspicychef

    crazyspicychef Pooh-Bah (2,341) Sep 27, 2012 Pennsylvania
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    This thread has me real thirsty for a Franziskaner Hefe now.
     
  5. MrOH

    MrOH Grand Pooh-Bah (3,995) Jul 5, 2010 Virginia
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    You need a time machine to go back 30 years [​IMG]
     
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  6. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    They are likely not using "lager yeast" for primary.
     
  7. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    You can't? I can.

    One example being Sterling Pig Shoats Pilsner at my local Wegman's Supermarket, that beer is less than 12 bucks a six-pack.

    Cheers!
     
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  8. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    The lager yeast is used solely for krausening for can conditioning of the beer.

    The primary fermentation would be with an ale (hefeweizen) yeast strain.

    Cheers!
     
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  9. steveh

    steveh Grand Pooh-Bah (4,174) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    I thought the same when I re-read my review!
     
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  10. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    On the topic of packaged yeast for secondary:

    - Doing things the proper way and adding the yeast to your pour results in muted flavor and more body. It's not my personal preference.

    - The only imported Kristallweizen I can remember having was from Weihenstpehaner, and it had plenty of the expected yeast character. I haven't had much of that beer though. I'd take their Kristallweizen over their canned Hefe if they were both fresh. If decanted, I'd take their bottled Hefe over either of those.
     
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  11. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    Too late.

    [​IMG]
     
  12. steveh

    steveh Grand Pooh-Bah (4,174) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    What the..? :thinking_face:

    And what's a "Zip-top?"
     
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  13. considerbeer

    considerbeer Devotee (303) Dec 15, 2016 California

    Methinks the OP was conflating "hazy" with "color" given the reference to the deeper orange of the subject beer. Virtually every hefeweizen has a pretty substantial degree of haze, even if decanted. In my experience, nearly all American breweries' interpretations of hefeweizen is very, very pale - in comparison among the palest of German counterparts. But you take one look at a Schneider Weisse and realize the color range stretches dramatically before you even get to truly dunkles weissbier.

    But all quite hazy nonetheless.
     
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  14. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    I don't subscribe to artificially strict views on beer types, and something like haze will have degrees and inconsistencies... but if someone handed me the below beer and I didn't know what it was, I wouldn't think it was an imported Weizen based on the degree of opacity.
    [​IMG]
     
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  15. DarkDragon999

    DarkDragon999 Maven (1,331) Feb 13, 2013 Rhode Island

    Yeah thats my point. If someone handed me that and I didnt know what it was I would say "thats a hazy ipa." If they said "no its a German hefeweizen my reaction would be " Say what?!" If I see on the can it says "Modern hefe" I immediately think modern means "hazy" based on how it looks hence the term "hazy hefeweizen."
     
  16. jmdrpi

    jmdrpi Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,989) Dec 11, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    Yes, definitely more rust colored - this was a glass of it I had at Schneider restaurant in Munich
    [​IMG]
     
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  17. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    [​IMG]
    Just another of the many names that the can manufacturers and the brewers gave to the early "No Opener Needed" can lids of various design, like Snap Top, Tab Top, Tap Top, Pull Tab, Ring Pull, etc. The Zip Top, with a solid tab, left a opening that kinda looked like a pawn in a Chess game (tho' I've seen can collectors call it a "dog bone", too). I think it was one of the first, used by Pittsburgh for Iron City Beer, too.
     
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  18. Amendm

    Amendm Pooh-Bah (2,589) Jun 7, 2018 Rhode Island
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    Well Im not seeing orange, looks like pale straw, golden straw in sunlight.

    As for the haze, I can see my fingers but I can't read large print through it.

    Overall this is similar to other domestic Hefeweizens i have tried, different in taste and smell from imports.

    Reporting live from Jack's Abby, Amendm wishing you a great afternoon.

    [​IMG]
     
  19. swid

    swid Pooh-Bah (1,834) Jun 5, 2004 Missouri
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    This comment spun up memories that Boulevard Wheat's marketing started emphasizing its haziness a few years ago. While I don't think the word "hazy" ever made it to can/bottle labeling, the current description of it on Boulevard's Web site starts with a subtitle of "Hazy American Classic" and then proceeds to describe it as a "hazy American wheat beer" in the first sentence.
     
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  20. jmdrpi

    jmdrpi Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,989) Dec 11, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    Different yeast flavor/aroma? sweeter? drier? hoppier?

    Just wondering what "Modern Series reimagines classic beer styles" actually means
     
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