Heady Topper for BCBS

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  1. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    This is where communication would be helpful, all it would take would be a BM saying he's stocked, or not interisted. All the above are not distributed in NC, and I really don't have a clue where they are nonexistent to maybe available on the shelf. I have to jump thru hoops for Parabola, and to me it does set up well for trades. I would suppose that where you live plays a big role into what's attractive, that much is quite obvious. I see guys in Fla looking for something as simple as Sweetwater, I can buy it in the grocery store.
     
  2. daryk77

    daryk77 Pundit (925) Jun 16, 2005 District of Columbia

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    I agree with that completely. It is all up to the taste of that one trader. I would think there would be others out there that would do that trade.
     
  3. abecall98

    abecall98 Savant (1,234) Aug 11, 2007 California
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    Why don't you dorks just wait for it to hit others states? And if you miss this batch, big whoop, there are more and more batches coming. Drink some other stout in the meantime.
     
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  4. Pahn

    Pahn Initiate (0) Dec 2, 2009 New York

    damnit.
     
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  5. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    BB came and went pretty quickly here.
     
  6. mjohnson17

    mjohnson17 Initiate (0) Apr 29, 2012 Illinois

    If I can add some food for thought. Right now BCBS has only been released in Chicagoland, and people in Chicago are losing their shit trying to stock up like the apocalypse is coming, even though Chicago is already seeing its second wave of shipements to stores. Also keep in mind 2012 BCBS has only been on the market for a little over a week; the hype and frenzy is still high. Give it a few more weeks for Chicago to slow their roll and for BCBS to trickle out to the rest of the country. Trading will get easier.

    In addition the people buying BCBS in Chicago have no issue getting those great FW beers too. I would suggest offering something harder for them to get, like any east or west coast beers not widely distributed. I think Heady is a great starting point, but I can imagine if someone from the east coast offered some HT AND some Hill Farmstead stuff then Chicago would jump all over that.

    One final suggestion: Check out what FT: BCBS posts are out there to get an idea of what the people with BCBS are asking for. Granted some people are off their rocker with their offers, but if you take enough data points you might be able to formulate a general consensus of what BCBS owners are looking to trade for it.

    Just my thoughts.
     
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  7. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    Well done post. I can get HT and Pliny and Blind Pig, and if FW is all over the Midwest it's not an attractive trade. I have a new contact for RR stuff and if it's priced right foe me I could/will buy quantity.
     
  8. bozodogbreath

    bozodogbreath Savant (1,128) Oct 19, 2006 Indiana
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    Another persepective - as a lover of BA stouts, and one who does not drink a lot of beer, quantity of HT (or any other quality IPA/DIPA) would not move me to trade. I really ejoy good IPA/DIPA, but having 8 or 12 fresh Heady/Pliny/etc. would only mean I would have to drink more beer - if I wanted to drink it fresh. I think the offer of two 4 packs of HT plus a small premium is a fair trade, but I would be inclined to only trade for other quality cellar worthy beer.

    If BCBS sat on the shelves I think $4$ is totally fair, but it does takes work to round up BCBS. Few places are willing to sell more than a 4 pack. Few BA's are fortunate to purchase their BCBS by the case.

    I wish the OP luck in scoring some BCBS!
     
  9. BearsOnAcid

    BearsOnAcid Pooh-Bah (2,239) Mar 17, 2009 Massachusetts
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    I think $4$ is fine. Why are people losing their shit over BCBS? It used to sit and die on shelves for years. Each batch of Heady doesn't even last 5 days at the brewery and distribution is limited to the Montpelier/Burlington area right now. Either way, both beers are released in great numbers.
     
  10. BearsOnAcid

    BearsOnAcid Pooh-Bah (2,239) Mar 17, 2009 Massachusetts
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    For every excuse people grasp for to make BCBS look like a shelf whale I could probably think of one for Heady. There's no reason this trade shouldn't get done other than petty hoarders trying to squeeze the value out of every last BCBS bottle they have.
     
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  11. JeepCop

    JeepCop Initiate (0) May 16, 2010 Kansas
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    Sweet! I'd love to hear 'em!
     
  12. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    One is available year round, the other still released in small waves. And even a "great" number of BCBS is still small enough to get sucked up pretty quickly given the demand. I remember 4-5 years ago KBS sat on the shelf for a few weeks after a release for 6 bucks a bottle. Now KBS goes as fast or faster than BCBS and there's not the same amount to be passed around. KBS gets broken down to single bottle sales for 5 Bucks for an honest retailer, up to 10. You can only stretch 2 cases of KBS to a big area only so far.
     
  13. baconsausage

    baconsausage Initiate (0) Jun 28, 2010 Vermont

    its 13.60 before the tax at my local, and im gonna quote you the price after tax cause thats what it cost me. i might also quote you the cost of gas per mile if im feeling surly.
     
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  14. BearsOnAcid

    BearsOnAcid Pooh-Bah (2,239) Mar 17, 2009 Massachusetts
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    I wouldn't because either way you are arguing about shelf beers. It's stupid. Let me know when you guys are talking about something actually rare and isnt distributed to over half of the country and I'll give my .02 lol
     
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  15. mjohnson17

    mjohnson17 Initiate (0) Apr 29, 2012 Illinois

    Just playing devil's advocate.
    What's your definition of shelf beers?
    Any beer sold? Because I'm sure at one point or another a beer sat of a shelf, whether on a shelf at a gas station for years or the shelf of a brewery like FFF or Alchemist (a la ZD or Heady, gone is 60 seconds).
    You can argue both BCBS and Heady are shelf beers even if you don't get as literal as my previous sentences because both are distributed (both locally & nationwide).
    You can also argue that neither are shelf beers because both Heady and BCBS sell out so fast they don't even have chance to make it a stores shelf (i.e. people mulling around liquor stores in Chicago for hours waiting for the GI delivery truck to arrive).

    I completely agree that this OP's trade probably should get done with what he's offering... eventually, after hype dies down a bit. But I also enjoy the lively debates on BA, God Bless American & the 1st Amendment. Everyone's entitled to their own opinion.
     
  16. BearsOnAcid

    BearsOnAcid Pooh-Bah (2,239) Mar 17, 2009 Massachusetts
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    There's too much grey area to define a shelf beer. Before MA got GI I never thought it was worth the extra money to trade for. When it came here I think I bought one '09 bomber to cook with. People can like what they like but the sudden exponential rise in hype and demand is astounding.
     
  17. franklinn

    franklinn Initiate (0) May 29, 2012 Vermont

    Just to knit-pick, heady isn't distro'd nationwide.

    To me, heady and bcbs balance and cancel each other out. Should work out $4$. If not: Oh well, just beer.
     
  18. MarkIntihar

    MarkIntihar Initiate (0) Mar 17, 2010 Michigan

    I feel (maybe felt at this point? I think there's still crazy high demand for it, but what do I know...) exactly this way about Heady. I just don't get it.
     
  19. JeepCop

    JeepCop Initiate (0) May 16, 2010 Kansas
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    Supply & demand. Right now with BCBS just being released in Chicago, the supply is pretty limited and the demand is quite high. Once BCBS hits full distribution, I bet (hope) things will even out a bit. That being said, I don't think I'd take (x2) 4 pks of HT for (x1) 4 pk of my BCBS.
     
  20. mjohnson17

    mjohnson17 Initiate (0) Apr 29, 2012 Illinois

    Yeah, you're correct, I should have typed "both locally OR nationwide".

    While we're on the topic of dirsto; I know in their summer newsletter thingy The Alchemist mentioned that they were increasing production of HT and were planning on widening distribution to Boston, has this occurred yet? Anyone know if there's any news on that?
     
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