Heady Topper in Santee CA

And he gets away with it because the ABC is too busy entrapping people in stings.

 

And I'm sure you as the law abiding citizen would never illegally trade beer ... oops guess u do
If he gouges, don't buy.
He does it cuz there is a market ....don't get butt hurt or play holier than thou..
Good for him

 

Trading beer and selling beer are two entirely different concepts. If you're struggling to see the difference, let us all know.
He gouges and we don't buy. Read this thread and any other thread about Freddy, it's a common theme.

Just because there is a market, doesn't make an illegal activity any more legal. But keep buying Heady Topper from him; a fool and his money are soon parted. So good luck with that.

 

How many times have you shopped there, kotayk?

 

Nobody has even mentioned the fact that he makes up reviews of his store on this very website. Also he was incredibally rude to my wife one time so screw him and his crappy little store.

 

Yeah. I mean, look up his store on Ratebeer. There's a warning at the top that says "Reviews of this establishement [sic] have been flagged and should be considered questionable" because he creates accounts to post fake reviews of his store.

There's not really any basis for me to say this, but I imagine he calls us all "haters" and thinks we dislike him because we're jealous of him. It just seems something he would think.

Anyway, this topic has been beaten to death over the years. People from out of state will continue to give his store high marks and people in San Diego who have interacted with the guy or are aware of his practices will continue to despise him.

 

Glad I found this thread; I'm from San Diego originally but have never explored the bottle shops there. Planning to do so this Thanksgiving, and despite the high marks I'll be avoiding this establishment when I'm down. Thanks!

 

I meant Washington state. Retailers in WA can buy directly from manufacturers; it's the only state that doesn't have laws enforcing the three tier system.

 

Ah I didn't realize Washington state allowed that, DC is the same way.

 

If the grammar was slightly worse with a few misspellings, this would sound exactly like Freddy.

 

Can someone explain what's so bad about offering beers that aren't distributed in your area or state? I know it's against the law, but who is it hurting? Thanks.

 

let's beat this dead horse over and over again.

 

It hurts other businesses in town that play by the rules. It hurts consumers because, well, I'm fairly certain that HT he's selling isn't fresh from the brewery last week, if you know what I'm saying.

 

Plus, the worse in my opinion, is he has created fake accounts to rip on other local bottle shops. He has no morals or ethics and is very disrespectful, I don't see why he deserves any respect.

Other things he is know for doing: Making you buy other beers before access to limited releases. Charging different prices on what he feels he can get away with (charging more for women thinking they don't know as much about the beer). General lying and "used car dealer" attitude ("only I have this beer, no one else"... though it was distributed).

 

OK, I see how it's unfair to other businesses but I doubt this kind of thing puts anyone out of business. As far as hurting the consumer, no one is forcing them to buy that beer.

 

It hurts businesses around him. Trust me. I run a bottle shop in LA and constantly have to hear "how come you guys don't get HT and a Zombie Dust and Founders like _____, ______, & ______ do?"

Because it's blatantly illegal in more ways than one doesn't seem to be a valid answer to people who usually just think I suck. Sorry I'm not going to risk my future and the future of a multi million dollar shop to attract whale hunters.

 

$10 you spend on beer acquired and sold illegally is $10 you cannot spend at other businesses following the law.

 

I know I'm not going to change your mind. But you can go hang out with Freddy all you want. You'll never see me step foot in that store ever again though.

 

If it's actively impacting you, why don't you leave some anonymous comments to the ABC? Or have you to no effect?

 

Not that they're really gonna care, here is the ATF's hotline 1-888-ATF-TIPS (1-888-283-8477) [email protected]. Not that they've got time to deal with such a minor operation...but I guess it can't hurt.