Hefeweizen fermentation temperature

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  1. Supergenious

    Supergenious Maven (1,273) May 9, 2011 Michigan

    What temperature have you guys found to work best for Hefeweizens? I know higher = more banana, and lower = more clove. Is there a temperature that will give a nice mix of both?
     
  2. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    When I homebrew with Wyeast 3068 my preferred fermentation temperature is 68-70 degrees F. For my palate this strain produces an ideal mix of banana and clove at that temperature.

    Besides fermentation temperature other variables which will influence the flavor profile are:
    • Pitching rate
    • Aeration amount
    • etc.
    Cheers!
     
  3. secondbase

    secondbase Initiate (0) Jun 3, 2015 Tennessee

    I pitch at 65 and gradually raise to 70 by the end of fermentation. I've found that ester and phenol production in hefeweizen are reliant on pitch rate as much as they are by temperature.
     
  4. scottakelly

    scottakelly Maven (1,487) May 9, 2007 Ohio

    I too usually use Wy3068 (though my only batch this year has used cultivated SN Kellerweis).

    I usually pitch in the low 60s and hold at 65 for a week and finish out around 70. There is a nice banana and clove mix to me using this protocol.
     
  5. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    In the past, I pitched low and let free rise. Probably went from 63-68 or so on a cool cellar floor. I liked the balance I got.
     
  6. Supergenious

    Supergenious Maven (1,273) May 9, 2011 Michigan

    I assume lower pitch rates and less aeration produce a more pronounce banana/ clove flavors?
     
  7. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Yes, that will increase fermentation characteristics.

    Cheers!
     
  8. scurvy311

    scurvy311 Savant (1,135) Dec 3, 2005 Louisiana

    I've only used 3068, I start at 62 then ramp up to 68 after 2 days, but that's just me. I like it. I think whole adjusting the ferm temp of hefe yeast is not as big of an adjustment knob as it is made out to be. Pitching rate, oxygenation, and yeast health, from my anecdotal experience, render temp influence a small knob of 3-5 total knobs.
     
  9. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    Really yeast dependent. I usually pitch at 62 and raise gradually after 3 days...not a big fan of over-ripe isoamyl acetate :slight_smile:
     
  10. MarkGP

    MarkGP Initiate (0) Jan 28, 2015 Rhode Island

    My last Hef I used wlp300 instead of the my usual wy3068. I wanted a good amount of banana to come through this time that the 3068 was lacking. I pitched a large starter of the 300 at 72 degrees for 24 hours then held it at 75 for the rest of fermentation. That was a total success. Banana bomb! So if you don't want that much banana don't do that! I think 68 degrees with the 3068 gives a nice balance.
     
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  11. DVoors

    DVoors Zealot (627) Jan 6, 2014 Indiana

    Jamil swears that his secret to the best mix of clove and banana is to ferment at 62 with this yeast. I've followed this and won some awards at BJCP competitions but I've found that the banana character is pretty subtle. If you are looking for more banana I would lower your pitching or oxygenation rates or ferment warmer.
     
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  12. RogelioRodriguez

    RogelioRodriguez Initiate (0) Nov 7, 2015 California

    I brewed a batch of beer with Wyeast 1010 in the upper 80's...it was a spiced wit and damn good.

    The 3068 yeast is not so good at higher temps...low 60's is good. but the Wyeast American wheat...seems to not mind high temps.
     
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  13. jmarsh123

    jmarsh123 Initiate (0) Mar 31, 2010 Indiana
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    I underpitch 3068 at 72-73 and get a huge banana flavor. I've always got the most flavor (banana & clove depending on temp) by underpitching.
     
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  14. jeebeel

    jeebeel Zealot (667) Jun 17, 2003 Texas

    For me, WL Hefeweizen IV fermented at 62 degrees is the ticket.
     
  15. InVinoVeritas

    InVinoVeritas Initiate (0) Apr 16, 2012 Wisconsin

    It doesn't look like it's been mentioned, but the mash also plays a role in producting clove.

    4-vinyl-guaiacol (4VG), gets you clove-like flavor / aroma. The precursor of 4VG is ferulic acid. If you do an acid rest 112F-ish you produce more of the precursor and thus more clove in the end product. This is why I plan to do an acid rest for my next brew, a Wit.
     
    #15 InVinoVeritas, Jun 30, 2016
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