Helga hops

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  1. chavinparty

    chavinparty Zealot (653) Jan 4, 2015 New Hampshire

    Anyone use these? I got a half pound of them and I'm not sure how to utilize them. I was thinking about brewing a huge ris and using them at the end of the boil. Described on more beer as nothing like its parentage hallertau mittefrueh and like yogurt and Darjeeling tea?! What style might best suit these strange hops?
     
  2. premierpro

    premierpro Savant (1,060) Mar 21, 2009 Michigan

    Have not used them but your description of yogurt and tea does not sound appealing. I think you will need to test these in some type of single hop beer to learn what is best for you. Went through this a few years ago with the Belma hops. For me I learned that Belma is a good bittering hop and has the spicy peppery flavor that I like in my Belgian Tripple. Please let us know what you have learned. Take care.
     
  3. OldBrewer

    OldBrewer Maven (1,385) Jan 13, 2016 Canada (ON)

  4. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    “Formerly known as Southern Hallertau. Bears almost no aroma similarities to it's European cousin - instead, fresh fruit yogurt, pungent basil, and darjeeling tea jump out. Low oil and cohumulone, but very unique aroma with moderate bittering. Lots of potential for English-style ales.”

    The flavor descriptions above do not sound like any English Ale that I have ever tasted (including numerous trips to Great Britain). The only thought that comes to mind when I read “Lots of potential for English-style ales.” is marketing stuff.

    Cheers!
     
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  5. MrOH

    MrOH Grand Pooh-Bah (3,995) Jul 5, 2010 Virginia
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    Sounds like it might be an interesting dry hop for a sour ale.
     
  6. OldBrewer

    OldBrewer Maven (1,385) Jan 13, 2016 Canada (ON)

    Similar thoughts went through my mind as I read that. Lagers sounds more reasonable.
     
  7. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Have you tasted any lagers that had a flavor profile similar to: "...fresh fruit yogurt, pungent basil, and darjeeling tea jump out." Do you think you would enjoy drinking a lager with that sort of flavor profile.

    Cheers!
     
  8. MmmmmmBeer123

    MmmmmmBeer123 Initiate (0) Nov 15, 2015 Connecticut

    From a few various websites I've seen it described as "noble-ish", flowery, and mild...
     
  9. FeDUBBELFIST

    FeDUBBELFIST Pooh-Bah (1,765) Oct 31, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Saison or Biere de Garde sounds plausible to me.
     
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  10. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    I think they could work well in BJCP category 97J, Yogurt/Basil/Tea Lagers. And in Yogurt Carton Aged Beers, but that goes without saying.
     
  11. OldBrewer

    OldBrewer Maven (1,385) Jan 13, 2016 Canada (ON)

    No, but I have had lots of beers with Halletauer (even though it is stated that although it has Halertauer parentage, it doesn't taste like it). I wouldn't put it in a pilsner, but it's worth experimenting with other lagers. Hopefully the other flavours are subtle. I for one am all for experimenting with different flavours, and wouldn't mind seeing how these might pull through a strong, malty lager.
     
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  12. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    I look forward to reading your post about how you Helga Lager turned out.

    Cheers!
     
  13. OldBrewer

    OldBrewer Maven (1,385) Jan 13, 2016 Canada (ON)

    If I brew it (small batch) I'll post the results here.
     
  14. chavinparty

    chavinparty Zealot (653) Jan 4, 2015 New Hampshire

    I did a single hop IPA with Belma that tasted like strawberries. Not in a pleasant way.

    Thanks for all the input the strong malty thing made me feel better about my original idea. I'll brew my typical ris Kate the great clone with mostly Helga. I think yogurt and or tea and or basil could be cool in a stout. Plus stouts hide a lot so if the hop is bogus it will should still be tasty. I do think it would be nice in a sour or bier de garden as well (in theory). But I've found online hop descriptions to be very misleading
     
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  15. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    So with the yogurt flavor and the tea aspect, why not a berlinner or gose? Lacot souring, yogurt flavors, seems like a no brainer to me. Also, maybe a saison. I have been wanting to do a green tea saison, I could see this working as well.
     
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  16. machalel

    machalel Initiate (0) Jan 19, 2012 Australia

    From what I've read about people using them, I haven't seen references to yoghurt / basi / tea, more like floral and subtle herbal aromas, a touch spicy and grassy; very pseudo-noble aspects.


    BTW if you want some data on them : http://www.hops.com.au/products/helga (data sheet link down the bottom)
     
  17. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Do you personally know anybody who have brewed using Helga hops? If so, what were their impressions?

    Cheers!
     
  18. Brew_Betty

    Brew_Betty Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2015 Wisconsin

    It's entirely possible some clown at Morebeer ordered 500 pounds more Helga than they could sell, so they decided to use disturbingly unique descriptors to move the product. The grower claims it's a mild and forgiving hop.
     
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  19. chavinparty

    chavinparty Zealot (653) Jan 4, 2015 New Hampshire

    I think this is likely
     
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  20. machalel

    machalel Initiate (0) Jan 19, 2012 Australia

    I can ask around, but not that I can think of right now.
     
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