Temp and ABV help

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  1. Lfreda

    Lfreda Initiate (0) Sep 7, 2016 Maryland

    We have three brews complete. I have trend of low ABV in two of them. My question is , I pitched at 80 deg, would this cause below abv. The beers were both extract kits, front porch pale ale and moomoo chocolate milk Stout, both beers taste good, and a bit sweet so I wonder if the pitching temp killed or slowed the fermentation, or not areated enough? The room started off at 73 deg, I have since lowered the temp to 69 - 70 deg, I have a cream stout dme in secindary, I added a pound of honey at the end if the boil, it is 17 percent. And tasted amazing. I started that one with the lower room temps. Any thoughts are appreciated
     
  2. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    No.

    I don't know what a front porch ale is, but a milk stout should tastes a bit sweet. Lack of aeration could some under-attenuation, but generally not too severely with a low to moderate gravity recipe.

    It would help if you would post the recipes and your process, including the gravity readings you took and the temperature of the wort when you measured the original gravity. Also the actual volume of wort in the fermenter.
     
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  3. AngryDutchman

    AngryDutchman Zealot (693) Aug 8, 2015 Pennsylvania

    Good taste and session-quality beer? You've hit the jackpot.
     
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  4. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    There is always the chance that the beers had not finished fermenting and you are tasting the sweetness of unfermented sugar. Are you certain that the fermentation was complete by confirming with gravity measurements? If not, and if you bottled these beers, use caution because they likely will be over-carbonated..
     
  5. AngryDutchman

    AngryDutchman Zealot (693) Aug 8, 2015 Pennsylvania

    In my homebrew "taproom", if they're that tasty and low ABV, they won't survive long enough to reach overcarbonated status...
     
  6. Lfreda

    Lfreda Initiate (0) Sep 7, 2016 Maryland

    Definitely done, steady gravity readings on both.
     
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  7. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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  8. Lfreda

    Lfreda Initiate (0) Sep 7, 2016 Maryland

    I did not know enough to measure the water volumes, will do that in the future. The pale ale went from 1.043 to 1.019 that is adjusted for temp. I have to check the og of the moomoo chocolate milk Stout, it was exactly what was on the box though, I do remember that, FG is 1.024 ... There was tons of activity
    Thanks again
     
  9. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    1.024 FG isn't necessarily high for a milk stout, depending on the OG, grain bill, yeast strain, etc. That's why knowing the recipe would help.

    A Pale Ale that goes from 1.043 to 1.019 (56% apparent attenuation) is likely a problem. Again, recipe and process needed.

    Also, you used a hydrometer, and not a refractometer, right?
     
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  10. DrMindbender

    DrMindbender Initiate (0) Jul 13, 2014 South Carolina

    Those are awful high FGs...how long was fermentation?
     
  11. Nellis1218

    Nellis1218 Initiate (0) Sep 11, 2016 Maryland

    Fermentation for both were 7 days.
     
  12. Nellis1218

    Nellis1218 Initiate (0) Sep 11, 2016 Maryland

    The OG OF THE chocolate Milk Stout was 1.046 ingredients listed below...
    3.3 lbs Specail Dark LME
    2 lbs Sparkling Amber DME
    1 lb Lactose
    8 oz Aroma Grains
    1 lb Chocolate Grains
    1 oz Centinnial Hops
    .5 oz Cascade Hops
    5 oz cocoa nibs (secondary)
    Safale S-04 dry yeast
     
  13. DrMindbender

    DrMindbender Initiate (0) Jul 13, 2014 South Carolina

    7 days is not enough time for fermentation and yeast clean up IMO. I would let both of those ride for at least 2 weeks before thinking about checking for a gravity reading. Sure you can push it and have them "finish" within a week...but I wouldn't bottle them at a week unless you want very possible bottle bombs. I think your gravity will drop further in the second week. If you said the gravity was stable, to me that implies over multiple days of checking it, and if you checked it multiple days within the first week of fermentation, you very well could have stalled fermentation due to oxygenation.
     
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  14. crcostel

    crcostel Initiate (0) Feb 26, 2006 Illinois

    I get predicted OG of 1.047 and FG of 1.017 plugging it in. Your problem may be your recipe.
     
  15. crcostel

    crcostel Initiate (0) Feb 26, 2006 Illinois

    Does that include your cocoa nib secondary?
     
  16. Lfreda

    Lfreda Initiate (0) Sep 7, 2016 Maryland

    No they were in secondary for a week as well
     
  17. Lfreda

    Lfreda Initiate (0) Sep 7, 2016 Maryland

    We did not check it at all in the first week. In week 2 (secondary) I checked the pale ale several times, it never changed....did not really disturb the stout. Just took hydrometer readings going into secondary and coming out 1 week later.. I might add that in the last two days of secondary there was no activity in the air lock at all
     
  18. Lfreda

    Lfreda Initiate (0) Sep 7, 2016 Maryland

    And these won't either lol
     
  19. Lfreda

    Lfreda Initiate (0) Sep 7, 2016 Maryland

    They were each 1 week primary and 1 week seconday
     
  20. DrMindbender

    DrMindbender Initiate (0) Jul 13, 2014 South Carolina

    Why did you secondary a pale ale? And what yeast did you use to get a 17% cream stout? What were your OG and FG on that beer? Most beer yeast is killed at around 13% or so.
     
    #20 DrMindbender, Sep 11, 2016
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