Hello and a question

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  1. TheExplorographer

    TheExplorographer Initiate (0) Sep 8, 2016

    Hello from NY. We've just ventured into brewing our first beer on Monday. A Chocolate Coffee Porter. Just a home box kit to get started. We feel pretty confident that we did everything to the best of our abilities. The wort is in the primary now.. a 5 gallon bucket with a sealed top and bubbler. My question is this, we saw a LOT of activity from the bubbler after about 12 hours. This lasted for a couple days (in our 3rd day now) and activity in the bubbler is almost nil. We still have a good seal..I can lightly press on the top and it will bubble, but no or super slow activity now. Is this normal? We are going to siphon to a secondary, but from the instructions it says 5-7 days...or when activity slows... Any suggestions? I have not smelled it yet...that is my next course of action..but I thought I would check here first. Any help is greatly appreciated. If the question has already been answered and you have a link, please post. Thanks!! Happy to be here finally!

    Here is a pic of activity after 12 hours: http://imgur.com/eIPeg6M
     
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  2. TheExplorographer

    TheExplorographer Initiate (0) Sep 8, 2016

    Sit Rep...yes I know...a few mins later...lol. So I agitated the wort a bit...(top on still sealed) and did a smell test...SMELLS LIKE BEER! Yay... activity seems to have started again slowly...
     
  3. DunkelFester

    DunkelFester Zealot (607) Aug 24, 2004 Pennsylvania

    It is not uncommon for primary fermentation to proceed rapidly and visible airlock activity to fall off abruptly after 72 hours when you pitch a large quantity of viable yeast and / or if you ferment at an elevated temperature.

    In short? It's not unusual. It also may not be 'optimal' - but instructions that come with kits are just general guidelines, not hard & fast rules. There are too many variables at work for them to say "Primary fermentation will take 96 hours, exactly, and if not? You screwed up!"

    Your beer will likely turn out just fine. Welcome to homebrewing.
     
  4. jmdrpi

    jmdrpi Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,989) Dec 11, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    Even if airlock activity stops, the conditioning process is still happening, which will improve your beer:
    https://www.morebeer.com/articles/conditioning

    If you don't plan on adding any additional ingredients in secondary fermentation (dry hopping, fruit, or in your beer's case - cocoa nibs or coffee beans, etc), most homebrewers don't bother with racking to secondary for a simple beer. Just leave it in your primary fermentation vessel for a little longer to allow for the yeast to finish doing their thing before you bottle/keg.
     
  5. TheExplorographer

    TheExplorographer Initiate (0) Sep 8, 2016

    Awesome JMdrpi, thanks for the link! I am on it. Awesome DunkelFester, much appreciated...
     
  6. GormBrewhouse

    GormBrewhouse Pooh-Bah (2,111) Jun 24, 2015 Vermont
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    Welcome aboard. I did not see if you had taken a hydrometer reading or not. Hydrometer reading tell the tale on where the beer starts and where it should finish on the ferment.

    Read how to brew by Palmer and your learning curve will shorten, some. Best hobbie ever!!!
     
  7. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    The activity that started again was likely CO2 escaping from solution due to agitating the wort, especially if it started up again pretty much immediately. Attenuation may have already been finished. Measuring gravity (using that hydrometer @GormBrewhouse mentioned or a refractometer) is the only way to find out for sure.
     
  8. TheExplorographer

    TheExplorographer Initiate (0) Sep 8, 2016

    We took the hydrometer reading before pitching. I will do a reading tonight! God, I LOVE this place! So glad I stopped by! Thanks much!
     
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  9. jmdrpi

    jmdrpi Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,989) Dec 11, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    No problem. If you haven't already, picking up a hard copy of How to Brew is a great investment for referncing from your first batch through advanced techniques. Or you can read an older version free online: http://www.howtobrew.com/
     
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  10. rocdoc1

    rocdoc1 Savant (1,215) Jan 13, 2006 New Mexico

    The higher the temperature(within reason) the faster your beer will ferment. Some yeasts do better at higher temperatures than others, some do better at lower temps, so if possible make sure your yeast and your temperatures are in sync. Welcome to your new addiction, may it serve you well!
     
  11. TheExplorographer

    TheExplorographer Initiate (0) Sep 8, 2016

    We have maintained 70F. And pitched at 70F. We have done a calibration calculation to match the numbers we were given for FG and SG. Good to know about the higher temps. We did a hydrometer reading and we are at about 1.022 shooting for 1.013 so it looks to be on track for the schedule we have. I did have a taste (couldn't wait) after the reading..and it was pretty good!! (From the reading flask of course, don't want to waste any)
     
  12. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Is that the air temp or the beer temp?
     
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  13. Granitebeard

    Granitebeard Zealot (549) Aug 24, 2016 Maine

    Sounds like my last batch before the one I am doing now. It moved quick for me and I never saw any bubbles.... It showed signs of fermenting, so I gave it a few days, gave into everyone here and took a SG reading, and things were bottled a few days later. Regardless of how many times you do things, some times you get a curve ball, but everything is still good.
     
  14. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    Welcome to the hobby. Get ready for a fun ride. This isn't hard and fast rules, but I usually let a beer sit a week before even bothering with a hydrometer reading. Usually two weeks in the fermenter is the norm for my ales. Well, lower gravity ales anyways.
     
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  15. GormBrewhouse

    GormBrewhouse Pooh-Bah (2,111) Jun 24, 2015 Vermont
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    wasting beer,,,,,,,very bad, tasting beer as it goes thru life,,,,,,,,, very good. trouble is too much tasting and very little left to bottle. Then the brewer must upgrade, LOL.

    Tasting will show you some of the changes the beer goes thru, especially when you make a brew that will be aged for some time. Very cool stuff and I never get tired of it. Keep notes!!!!!
     
  16. drinkybanjo

    drinkybanjo Crusader (457) Sep 4, 2008 New Jersey

    Welcome! I was asking the exact same question a year ago when I started. This page is fantastic, especially for new brewers. I've now have about 15 batches under my belt and have employed lots of more advanced methods as I progressed. Keep brewing and enjoy!
     
  17. corbmoster

    corbmoster Pundit (848) Dec 15, 2014 Texas
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    I would suggest not doing this.
     
  18. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    I agree with this. Agitating (more like gently rocking) the wort after the brew day is really a last resort for when you're sure a fermentation is stuck, which in reality is pretty uncommon.
     
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  19. Vtaranto

    Vtaranto Aspirant (239) May 23, 2016 Virginia

    Sorry for an add on question but why would it be bad to agitate? Is it oxidization your concerned with?
     
  20. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Yes.
     
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