Can anyone tell me what they had to trade for a growler of abner & julius? Put up a couple in search of with some beers I definitely thought would do it. Thanks for the help.
Since you asked. I've got a 2l abner I could trade you.. but..... first of all a 2l abner is 28 dollars with glass I looked at one thread you posted. Many of the beers you offer are shelf beers. Gose? Really? 11 dollars a 6 pack where I am, incredibly easily available. Mexican cake? Again really? A 12 dollar shelf beer for a 28 dollar growler that's hard to get? Backyard is a start, but what was that 15 dollars? Your way way off the mark. Also people are probably tired of dealing with guys trying to bend them over for Mexican cake and gose Not trying to offend. But it's all IMHO
People sure have a lot of vitriol towards Mexican Cake and it's trading. I personally wouldn't trade MC for Abner but that's because I don't trade stouts for IPAs. But the offer of MC and Gose for it should not be offensive. Are they shelf beers? Yes to Gose, and no to MC, but they are "shelf" beers only in 2 states and one city. I don't think trading $4$ with beers is really ever "trade-winning" or "gouging". Rarity isn't really an issue since those outside of Vermont have to either trade for it or drive to it. Likewise with MC or Gose. But, constantly being lectured about trading MC is getting tired. I'm just glad I primarily traded any or all of my MC with folks I previously traded with so I didn't have to get berated for simply posting an ISO.
Regardless of whether it's right or wrong, I'm guessing the previous post's rationale is closer to the norm since the OP can't get the trade done. Interest ebbs and flows ... probably easier to gauge where interest is at than try and rationalize why the people not trading with you are wrong. ;-) When you see so many people trading MC and Gose it gives the perception, true or false, that it's ubiquitous. Sadly, this encourages a "strike while the iron is hot" mentality whereby people that get stuff want to trade while values are ascending / high and then have a hard time feeling like they're not getting robbed when interest wanes and trade value falls. We're participating in a steady stream of beer bubble economies! That said, these are growler only beers. OP - why don't you try some of the great growler only stuff from NC or beers from SC. Wicked Weed Freak of Nature? Other Wicked Weed growlers? Or bottles of their sours? Rarer stuff from Foothills? Bottles other than MC from Westbrook or stuff from Coast (Boy King?). You have options. Sure, Asheville is a trek ... but so is HF for almost everyone.
To be clear, I don't think MC or Gose "should" trade for Abner, I just don't think it's an offensive prospect. One of the obvious realizations that should be clear is that Westbrook basically puts out the only trade units for a lot of folks. I kinda think it's sad that folks stockpile so much of it with no intention to consume. When beer becomes widgets, beer becomes less enjoyable. Alas, hope OP gets his Abner or Julius and hope whoever gets their Westbrook or Wicked Weed or whatever is happy.
This post is misleading. Abner is $10/750ml or $18/2L. $28 is with glass like you said. He can simply send some money over PayPal if you are going to get all insane about it. I don't expect a trader to match that price with beer since an HF growler is probably useless to most people.
First of all, he and I have discussed things via BM, your post adds nothing Secondly, there's absolutely nothing misleading about my post. Do you understand what "misleading" means? I clearly stated it was with glass. The fact you want to offer to have someone make a paypal payment to you for the glass is great. Make the trade with him. Problem solved?
I believe @BearsOnAcid was merely pointing out that OP could get a 750mL fill of Abner for $13. The fact that you completely ignored that option in your diatribe is, in fact, misleading. With glass, a 750mL of Abner would be $13. Personally, for some "local" to HF, I don't see why something like MC of Backyard couldn't easily go 1:1 with a 750mL of Abner. You want to hold a growler you had to travel some distance to get at a premium, which is your prerogative. People do live close enough to HF that if they were jonesing for a MC or some Gose, they would see it as pretty fair "But it's all IMHO" You started your post with a little e-peen waving saying you had a 2L Abner, good for you. I had it on tap at Pro Pig Friday night, does that make me any cooler? The HF growler fill policy sort of confounds things, but $4$ in locals or whatever (maybe send the growler back filled with something local) would probably make up for it. OP, I don't think your off, I think it comes down more to finding someone who will "waste" or "mule" a fill for you. If anything, you'd be paying a premium for that, not for $X in glass.
It is misleading. You point out the max value of Abner when the $10 glass doesnt mean anything and itemized his $11-$15 beers like it was foolish to offer them in trade for an $18 growler. Besides that point, your comment came off as rude when the dude just wanted some advice. How the crap am I supposed to know you guys BM anyways?
But at the end of the day lets all be honest for the OP: no one's going to trade a growler of Abner for Gose or Mexican cake unless it's a mass of each or way over on $. In essence, that's what TheVicster was getting at.
Aren't you the same guy that thinks that BA Framinghammer should trade for ANTEAD? I send those things as extras. I've been thinking about offering Julius for MC. In the end it's something I have access to for something that I don't, that's good enough for me. Fuck all this trade value shit. Don't forget, 'tis better to give than to receive. Cheers.
I got Julius during it's last go around for Nocturn (badass trader also sent me What is Enlightenment? to even out $4$) I got Abner in early January I believe, along with a Double Galaxy, for a mixed 6 pack of IPA and barleywine. For full discourse, I am currently trading with what appears to be an awesome BA b4 Atrial for MC + 3xGose So... I'd imagine that you're pretty close, and as an admitted fanboy of HF I suggest going over $4$ (you may already have and if so I apologize) by like $6-$7 and you be good. GL, both are really good.
Hmmm. I always factor in the price of glass when I'm negotiating a trade. For me, the $4$ includes whatever glass/vessel the beer comes in. When I get a 2L of HF beer, I basically send $28 of beer, including growler cost if there's one on my end.
I think the growler thing is at least partially state dependent. in MA growlers have very little value since breweries will only fill their own - so in that sense a growler is simply a cost of the beer. similarly some breweries will only fill their on growlers. bottom line I have no problem with someone including the cost of the growler in beer price. $10 for a 2l isn't something I would expect someone to eat
