Help out a newbie please!

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  1. jricharc

    jricharc Zealot (671) Feb 16, 2012 Virginia

    Ok so I recently bought all of the ingredients to brew my first ever home brew along with a northern brewer 5gal starter kit. Now, I have a few questions about brewing a recipe I found here in another thread and want to make sure my first attempt is successful.

    So the recipe is as follows but I am unsure how much water to use when steeping the grains. Like I said this is my first ever attempt and I bought all the ingredients separate not as a kit so I am a little confused as to where and how to start. Any advice or thoughts are much appreciated.

    11lbs 2-row
    8oz C-40

    0.7oz Chinook 60min
    0.5oz Cascade 30min
    0.5oz Simcoe 15min
    0.5oz Simcoe 5min
    0.5 oz Simcoe 0min
    1.5oz Cascade 0min
    3oz Mosaic dry hop
    2oz Chinook dry hop

    Yeast: California Ale WLP001
    Mash 148-150F 90min
    Boil 90min
    69IBU
    SRM: 8
     
  2. Eggman20

    Eggman20 Crusader (433) Feb 14, 2017 Minnesota

    Welcome to the hobby. Appears you are jumping right into all-grain so hopefully you have the equipment to mash that 11lbs of 2-row.

    How much water to use will depend on what you want to end up in the boil and if you are going to sparge or not and you'll want to work backwards. If your boiling 90 minutes and want to end with 5g you'll likely need at least 6.5g in the boil. With that info and knowing grain soaks up roughly .1 gallons per pound you'll need a total of 7.5-7.75 gallons of mash and sparge water. I'd likely just split it 50/50 so 3.75g mash and 3.75g sparge but that becomes totally up to you.

    Also considering using RO water if you don't know your water profile as I learned from my first few all-grain batches: crappy water makes crappy beer.
     
  3. jricharc

    jricharc Zealot (671) Feb 16, 2012 Virginia

    Thanks, I am happy try extract brewing if that would be a better first trial. I have been watching lots of videos and reading but there is nothing like actually trying for yourself so I am just looking to start out and be successful to some degree.
     
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  4. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    That's an all-grain recipe, so you're going to be mashing, rather than simply steeping. 1.5 quarts water per pound of grains is a good starting point for your mash. The rest of your water will be used to sparge or mash-out at the end of the mash, depending on how you want to do it.

    Have you read "How to Brew" ( www.howtobrew.com ) or one of the other beginner books?
     
  5. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    I agree that crappy water makes crappy beer, but plain RO water, with no salts added, isn't going to be good for most mashes, including this one.
     
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  6. jricharc

    jricharc Zealot (671) Feb 16, 2012 Virginia

    Gotcha, yes I am reading a book that I got along with watching various videos. My neighbor is a home brewer so I hope to get some guidance from him but wanted to try and gain as much knowledge on my own as well, so perhaps I should start with an extract recipe to get my feet wet.
     
  7. Granitebeard

    Granitebeard Zealot (549) Aug 24, 2016 Maine

    Starting with extract is best, IMHO. You can jump right into all grain and make it, but the equipment is a little hard for some to grasp. You didn't say what you have for equipment beyond the NB starter kit. So something like a 8 or 10 gal kettle is needed, and if you don't have that it might be hard to get an all grain batch off the ground.

    If you neighbor does homebrewing and you are on good terms with him, ask if he can help you set up you all grain batch.
     
  8. Eggman20

    Eggman20 Crusader (433) Feb 14, 2017 Minnesota

    Sorry forgot to add the comment about adding some salts. I was in a rush to get to lunch so food was on my mind!

    Starting with extract would be a great way to get your feet wet. You can use the same recipe and just sub Dry Malt Extract in for the 2-row. If you wanted some specialty grains you would just steep them in the water you plan to boil in. Most extract recipes have you boiling a smaller volume and adding additional water after chilling and before pitching the yeast. How much water to start with will come down to kettle size. When I did extract I only had a 5 gallon kettle so would typically start boil with 3-3.5 gallons and top off the rest when complete.
     
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  9. GormBrewhouse

    GormBrewhouse Pooh-Bah (2,111) Jun 24, 2015 Vermont
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    Extract is a excellent way to start. Having a local Homebrewer who makes good beer willing to help you is equally excellent.
     
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  10. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    That would be my recommendation.

    Do you have a mash tun to mash grains?

    Cheers
     
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  11. CarolusP

    CarolusP Zealot (590) Oct 22, 2015 Minnesota

    Like others said, I would start there. Once you've done that, assuming your brew kettle is large enough, you're only a bag away from doing all-grain.
     
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  12. jricharc

    jricharc Zealot (671) Feb 16, 2012 Virginia

    I was planning on building one, I have large brew kettle that was used for turkey frying so I think I am ok with that for a brew kettle? I plan on building an immersion cooler this week and try to brew this weekend if possible. I have a local home brew supply place so I can go get the extract from them and I can show them the original recipe and figure out what I need.

    I think I will try an extract batch and then donate my grains to my neighbor for some assistance and watch an all-grain process from start to finish. I aim to have a decent setup and start brewing my own beer as much as possible so any investment into equipment will be put to good use. Thank you all for the awesome responses already!
     
  13. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Best of luck with your extract batch.

    I personally would recommend that you buy some Briess Pilsner Dried Malt Extract (DME) for your 'base malt' but your LHBS person should help you out here.

    Cheers!
     
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  14. frozyn

    frozyn Maven (1,435) May 16, 2015 New York
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    I second both of Jack's sentiments. DME is a lot easier to work with than LME. Also, a couple or few extract batches will cut down on the complexity of the brew day and let you focus on the most important part of brewing -- cleanliness and sanitation.
     
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  15. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    Let us know how the brew day goes.
     
  16. NorCalKid

    NorCalKid Initiate (0) Jan 10, 2018 California

    If you have any Homebrew stores close by look to see if they offer any classes on beginning all grain or extract brewing.
     
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  17. kiwipablo

    kiwipablo Initiate (0) Dec 14, 2017 Texas

    Seems like you might be get a kick out of things like building a mash tun, wort chiller etc, if so, so more power to you. But if you are thinking of building to save some $, be sure to take a look on Craigslist. I guarantee you there is someone down the road, looking to get an allgrain setup out of their garage for way cheaper than buying new or even building.
     
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  18. jricharc

    jricharc Zealot (671) Feb 16, 2012 Virginia

    So I brewed last night, I talked to another neighbor I happened to meet helping my Dad with some plumbing. He is a serious home brewer and gave me a ton of great advice along with some awesome goodies to use. I built my immersion chiller and installed my ball valve and thermometer on my pot and put it all to the test yesterday. I think everything went well, I had a 5gal bucket of sanitizer that I used to keep everything clean and did a 90min boil. It ended up good and when I put in the fermentation bucket I had a reading of 22 on the brix scale so I think it could be in that 10-11%ABV range. I am excited and ready to start my next batch in a few weeks and keep my fridge stocked with great beer all summer!

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  19. NorCalKid

    NorCalKid Initiate (0) Jan 10, 2018 California

    Make sure your reading your refractometer/hydrometer at its calibrated temperature to get accurate readings. There’s some good Homebrewing software websites out there that will help in your endeavor into this addictive hobby. Cheers!
     
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  20. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    It looks like you experienced a boil-over. You're officially a homebrewer now, so welcome to the club! :wink::grin:
     
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