Help with high OG beer

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  1. kkleu357

    kkleu357 Savant (1,170) Apr 2, 2014 Wisconsin
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    I'm brewing my first high OG beer this weekend. The OG should be around 1.108. The kit came with Safale US-05 Ale Dry Yeast. My question is, would I be better off making a yeast starter or buying another packet of yeast and pitching both?

    Also, this yeast's pitching instructions is to just sprinkle into the wort. Should I ignore this and still re-hydrate the yeast?

    Thanks!
     
  2. jlordi12

    jlordi12 Pooh-Bah (1,856) Jun 8, 2011 Massachusetts
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    how large is your batch?
     
  3. kkleu357

    kkleu357 Savant (1,170) Apr 2, 2014 Wisconsin
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    5 gallon.
     
  4. ChrisMyhre

    ChrisMyhre Initiate (0) Sep 15, 2013 Massachusetts

    I would hydrate and make sure you are pitching enough yeast (cell count for one packet of US-05 should be about around 225B cells if new and stored properly). Your target cell count is 664B cells per the MR Malty Calculator assuming a 5.5 gallon batch. I would rehydrate 3 packets of us-05 or step up a vial of White Labs 001 or Wyeast 1056.

    At that OG I would also oxygenate with pure O2 prior to pitching and again at 24 hours. Oh and use yeast nutrient as well.
     
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  5. jlordi12

    jlordi12 Pooh-Bah (1,856) Jun 8, 2011 Massachusetts
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    I would heed the advice of Chris, I made a starter out of US-05 once, it was a bloody mess.
     
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  6. dblab33

    dblab33 Initiate (0) Dec 9, 2011 Michigan

    Two packs of US-05 will be fine, especially if you aerate well and use yeast nutrient.
     
  7. kkleu357

    kkleu357 Savant (1,170) Apr 2, 2014 Wisconsin
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    I will do the multiple packs then.

    I used the Mr Malty Calculator too but it is saying I need to pitch 500B cells, or just under 2 packs of yeast. Was the 3 packs Chris mentioned a typo or am I using this calculator wrong?

    I was planning on using yeast nutrient, but didn't think of oxygenating again after 24 hrs.
     
  8. ChrisMyhre

    ChrisMyhre Initiate (0) Sep 15, 2013 Massachusetts

    I used 5.5 gallons out of habit since I brew a little more to shoot for 5 gallons in the keg accounting for trub, etc...
     
  9. Lukass

    Lukass Pooh-Bah (2,891) Dec 16, 2012 Ohio
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    I agree. Although lately I've been doing yeast starters for every batch of beer I make, just to be sure. With an O.G. that high though, I'd want to be sure it doesn't stall.

    If F.G. is not where you want it after 2 weeks you can always finish it off with a super high gravity strain.
     
  10. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    What I have to say has already been stated but I will chime in nonetheless:

    Two packets of US-05 rehydrated should provide sufficient yeast cells.

    Do add yeast nutrient to the wort during boil.

    For an OG of > 1.100 proper oxygenation is very important. Make sure you obtain at least 10 ppm; pure oxygen is required for this. I do not know how necessary re-oxygenating is at 24 hours post pitch but it probably is a good idea.

    The other important aspect is to ensure that you maintain a proper fermentation temperature. With higher gravity beers I like to pitch on the lower end of the recommended fermentation temperature range and then after 4-5 days let it free rise to the middle of the range. Through lower fermentation temperature you mitigate the formation of higher alcohols (fusel oils).

    Cheers!
     
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  11. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
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    Dry yeasts usually don't get starters. 2 packs should do the trick with rehydration and a cool mash temp. You'll be fine.
     
  12. PeterP-516

    PeterP-516 Initiate (0) Jul 14, 2013 New York

    This thread helped me out big time. Thank you guys!
     
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