HF Abner

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  1. smartassboiler

    smartassboiler Pooh-Bah (2,494) Apr 9, 2012 Illinois
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    Pardon my ignorance concerning HF releases and their trade value.

    Was this released recently? If so, what does it normally take to land it?
     
  2. Atomicskis5

    Atomicskis5 Initiate (0) Aug 4, 2011 Connecticut

    It is on tap now, growler only and with the growler limit at three, they are trading decent right now. It is the best IIPA ive had (my opinon of course) but i know there are a lot that agree. Cant give an exact trade value, but im getting a beat 5 for a growler for one. Hopefully that helps you out!
     
  3. smartassboiler

    smartassboiler Pooh-Bah (2,494) Apr 9, 2012 Illinois
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    Ok, thanks!

    I should have clarified my value question. Would some well-rated Pipeworks beers work in exchange for Abner and perhaps something else that they're pouring, or do I have to start offering once-a-year limited releases?

    Judging from Beat B5, it looks like it'll take more along the lines of Abyss, Darkness, etc.
     
  4. drummermattie02

    drummermattie02 Initiate (0) May 10, 2009 Texas

    I offered up a draft-only world class local IPA and got crickets. If it takes more than that, I'll just drink the world class local IPA.
     
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  5. TequilaSauer

    TequilaSauer Initiate (0) Dec 31, 2006 Florida

    People who live near it have very few issues getting it. Make buddies with someone who lives near HF and you won't have to let go of too much to get it. Limited release, $4$ and you'll be good to go. And yeah, it is top 3 DIPAs, IMO. Only Gandhi and Heady are above it, I think. Maybe Project Dank.
     
  6. sandman3479

    sandman3479 Initiate (0) Dec 8, 2006 Connecticut

    No one lives close to HF. It's an hour-ish to anything resembling a small city/large town.

    Their limited IPA's trade relatively high.

    Pretty sure Pipeworks regular beers ain't gonna pull it. Not even double $4$ IMO. Then again, that's just like, my opinion man...
     
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  7. TequilaSauer

    TequilaSauer Initiate (0) Dec 31, 2006 Florida

    I don't know the exact distance they live, but I have a guy who goes on the regular and he deals HF stuff to me $4$ for comparable release. Funky Buddha Brewery is about 45 minutes from me (not sure why an hour isn't considered near in comparison to the rest of the country, but whatevs), and I'll send him limited release growlers for HF growlers $4$.
     
  8. smartassboiler

    smartassboiler Pooh-Bah (2,494) Apr 9, 2012 Illinois
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    Well, Pipeworks is interesting because as of yet, they don't have "regulars". Everything they do is relatively small batch, so each store gets a couple cases at the most, and then the next time they distribute their beers 10-14 days later, it's completely different beers. Ninja vs. Unicorn comes out semi-regularly, but everything else only comes out a couple times a year at most. Citra Ninja and their fruited/Toasty Nut Abduction line are sold out by the end of the day in almost every store. NvU normally only lasts a couple days max.

    Doubt that changes anything, but just more of an FYI thing. Point being that I can't just wander into a store on any day and grab the Pipeworks beer I want.
     
  9. sandman3479

    sandman3479 Initiate (0) Dec 8, 2006 Connecticut

    Because you're drivging through mountains and in ice and snow. While a beautiful drive, it can be a treacherous one. It's not like hopping on the highway and driving 45 minutes.
     
  10. sandman3479

    sandman3479 Initiate (0) Dec 8, 2006 Connecticut

    I'm very familiar with how Pipeworks works, and have had many of their great beers. They put out a lot of great stuff.
     
  11. smartassboiler

    smartassboiler Pooh-Bah (2,494) Apr 9, 2012 Illinois
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    Oh ok. Not trying to get into a turf war, just wanted to make it clear that it's not on the shelves regularly like Bell's Two Hearted.
     
  12. sandman3479

    sandman3479 Initiate (0) Dec 8, 2006 Connecticut

    Completely understand. I know they don't sit around for too long, and are tasty.
     
  13. mythaeus

    mythaeus Pooh-Bah (2,050) Jul 22, 2013 Pennsylvania
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    I've traded for Abner (along with 3 other HF growlers) with someone who made a trip to HF using Alpine D/IPA and Tired Hands growlers. It was straight $4$. Once in a while, you just get lucky and find someone who is fair-minded.

    Another time, I helped someone up there with a couple of Tired Hands growlers and in turn he shipped Double Galaxy to a 3-way trade partner. He could've shipped Abner in addition. Again, also roughly $4$ between Tired Hands and HF growlers in the end.

    This doesn't mean though that offering up Tired Hands, a rather well-known mostly growlers only local brewery, will land you HF growlers. Where you are, I'd think offering up Darkness plus Pipeworks limited releases would land you a couple 750ml HF growlers.

    I saw your ISO. I wasn't surprised because I haven't heard of the brewery you offered up. Not that I'm all-knowing, but I have some ideas of what small local breweries can be used to trade. Even Tired Hands being rather well-known, getting HF trades out of TH takes some work.

    One of the 2 traders I got HF from (mentioned above) says he lives 20 minutes from HF, but yeah, HF seems pretty far from civilization :slight_smile:.
     
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  14. TequilaSauer

    TequilaSauer Initiate (0) Dec 31, 2006 Florida


    Yeah, pretty much this. My buddy up there basically says "I'll go $4$ for anything limited that I haven't had." I did my last Abner for WO Jai Alais and Hopped on the High Seas Citras.
     
  15. drummermattie02

    drummermattie02 Initiate (0) May 10, 2009 Texas

    Right, I would have been looking to trade with someone who knew what the beer I was offering was; if you don't, then it wouldn't surprise me that you wouldn't want it.
     
  16. Stevedore

    Stevedore Grand Pooh-Bah (5,084) Nov 16, 2012 Oregon
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    It all really depends on who you know and finding the right guy.
     
  17. vonnegut21

    vonnegut21 Initiate (0) Apr 27, 2012 New York

    I tend to think trying to trade IPAs for IPAs isn't a great strategy.... when I hit HF and the Alchemist, I'm all set on hoppy beer. I really have no interest in sending them away for other hoppy stuff. I think you'll have much better luck offering something like Darkness to land Abner. FWIW, I sent an Abner today in a box to one of my regular trading partners and he's sending me a Darkness in my next box. Not necessarily a negotiated 1:1 trade, but those are the two beers most on par rarity wise that we're sending.

    If you're going to try to trade another IPA for Abner, you'll have to go with something equally rare, equally well rated and equally in demand... (i.e. draft only Alpine, Kern Citra). Pipeworks makes some tasty beers but they're generally pretty easy to trade for with more easily obtainable stuff (Heady/Ghandi, etc.).
     
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  18. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    IMO Ephraim is better than Abner, but finding someone who can and will run to HF might be tough. It's close to Waterbury but you figure in the drive, weather, standing in line and shipping growlers. And their stuff isn't expensive, but it's a pain and will take half a day at best, you might have to offer something premium whether it's $4$ or not, I think that's out the window.
     
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  19. smartassboiler

    smartassboiler Pooh-Bah (2,494) Apr 9, 2012 Illinois
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    Sounds like I have what I need to know for my trading strategy. Thanks for all the input everyone - I appreciate it.
     
  20. sphyrn

    sphyrn Initiate (0) Apr 11, 2013 Connecticut

    I love Abner, but Ephraim MAY be better.
    Unfortunately Ephraim is rarely ever made, comes only in 750ml and is wicked hahd to trade for.
    Fortunately I live 3.5 hours away.
    Unfortunately, I have no money, haven't for awhile, and wont for the very near future.
     
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