High Gravity beers and carbonation

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  1. CRJMellor

    CRJMellor Initiate (0) Nov 12, 2003 Arkansas

    Got a pretty tasty English Barleywine that bottled about a month ago. Opened first 22 oz. bottle this weekend just to get a read on taste. very solid malty profile with good Fuggles hop aroma, etc.
    Overall goal is to age 4-6 months in the bottle. Issue is just not carbing up though. not totally flat but low, even for a barleywine. I use Northern Fizz drops and used 2 per bottle as recommended.
    I was concerned enough that I sacrificed 2 other 22s and tried a re-carb experiment to see what happens with 2 more fizz drops. I know this risk of oxidation but honestly uncapped and re-capped in about 4 seconds so not hugely concerned.
    Question to the group is does carbonation take longer in higher gravity beers ? This one came in about 10% ABV, maybe just a hair under. Highest gravity brew I've ever brewed for sure.

    Any advice appreciated.
     
  2. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    “Question to the group is does carbonation take longer in higher gravity beers?” That is indeed the ‘reputation’ for higher gravity beers. I have never brewed a 10% ABV beer (the highest for me is 9.7%, so yeah I guess 10%). My beer (a BSDA) was pretty much carbonated at 1 month but not fully carbonated. I would suggest more patience is warranted here; maybe wait one more month before opening another bottle? I bottled my BSDA in May with the intention to ‘really’ start drinking these beers in another month or two.

    Cheers!
     
  3. CRJMellor

    CRJMellor Initiate (0) Nov 12, 2003 Arkansas

    Patience is not one of my virtues. My original intent was to open one bottle per month to see how flavor develops and changes. I guess I'll have to stick with my original plan. My estimated read was this came in at about 9.8% so very similar ABV to yours. I'll try 1 mid-Oct. and see where it stands.
     
  4. ultravista

    ultravista Initiate (0) Dec 11, 2010 Nevada

    Why does a higher gravity beer take longer to carbonate?
     
  5. HerbMeowing

    HerbMeowing Maven (1,295) Nov 10, 2010 Virginia
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    Two things...
    1) Home-brewed malted beverages with a high ABV will benefit from adding fresh yeast at bottlin'time.
    2) Carbonation can sometimes be improved by re-suspending the yeast. Grab a'hold a bottle by the top in one hand and its bottom in the other. Give the bottle a sharp twist a time or three as if you were replacing a light bulb.
    3) According to Hoyle...Barleywines are carbed at a relatively low level (~1.8 vols).
     
  6. CASK1

    CASK1 Pundit (951) Jan 7, 2010 Florida

    Alcohol is toxic to yeast. The longer you make them sit in a high alcohol environment, the unhappier they are, and many don't survive. Smaller numbers of unhappy yeast take longer to get the job done. Here's a good read on bottle conditioning.
     
  7. TNGabe

    TNGabe Initiate (0) Feb 6, 2012 Tennessee

    Reyeasting is the easiest option. Not that most of us brew enough to krausen to carbonate, but that's how Hair of the Dog bottle conditions.
     
  8. jbakajust1

    jbakajust1 Pooh-Bah (2,552) Aug 25, 2009 Oregon
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    I do this on all my bottled beers, works great, even on strong beers. I put all the bottles into my ferm fridge for 2 weeks set @ 70*F, then put them where they need to be (cellar, fridge, drop temp to lager, etc). I don't typically allow my high ABV beers to bulk age for months, only a few weeks. Even my sours are carbed up in 2 weeks (reyeasted).
     
  9. jae

    jae Initiate (0) Feb 21, 2010 Washington

    Patience, young Jedi. Re-yeasting would have help, as your boys have already gone through quite a fight, but with sugar, time and an appropriate temperature, the beer will eventually carb.
     
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