I am going to side with Dunix here. I think he may have been mis-understood. I consider HF my local brewery... That happens to be 4 hours away. It's that good! I believe what Dunix was implying was, that unless you have a growler of HF a few days after it being poured, you are not getting the full experience. His solution: Visit the brewery! I can tell you that when I trade for HF, I am insanely anal retentive about from pour to your doorstep being less than 6 days. Ask anybody I trade with. I agree with Dunix, 3-4 week old growlers of any HF pour are doing the consumer a disservice. That being said... If you ever would like to try a fresh growler of HF, BM me, we can make it work.