homebrew help

Discussion in 'Homebrewing' started by roadk01, Jan 11, 2016.

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  1. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    No, you don't want 70 degrees, just 67-68 to see if that heat will get things going a little faster. If your carboy is on the floor of your 66-degree basement (it might be 63-64 on the floor), raising it onto a table will help, or moving it closer to your water heater or furnace (but check the temp in those areas first). I've always considered 65-68 to be best, although that depends on which yeast you are using. Many homebrewers in this thread will say that most ale yeast are good down to 60 degrees, but if they aren't doing their job in a timely manner, a little coddling never hurts.

    A heating element isn't worth it in your environment since it should be easy for you to just move the carboy to a desirable area. If you were fermenting in a closet in your garage or some other cold space, a heating element would be helpful in an enclosed environment, but not so helpful next to your carboy.
     
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  2. roadk01

    roadk01 Initiate (0) Dec 31, 2015 Michigan

    Ok thanks, I had the carboy sitting on a table in our rec room with a thermostat, it was at a constant 66 degrees. I'll try moving it to the kitchen and see if I can get it near 68. Thanks!
     
  3. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    That is just fine. There is really no need to make a move.

    Cheers!
     
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  4. roadk01

    roadk01 Initiate (0) Dec 31, 2015 Michigan

    Thanks Jack, the reason we were moving it was because it's been almost 48 hours with no visible fermentation activity at 66 degrees. I thought I was doing everything right except for failing to aerate the wort before pitching the yeast. I'm still thinking lack of oxygen may be the problem.
     
  5. roadk01

    roadk01 Initiate (0) Dec 31, 2015 Michigan

    Thanks MG3, I'm using a remote digital thermometer that sits right next to the carboy so I'm thinking I'm getting a pretty accurate temp measurement.
     
  6. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    You really shouldn't need a warmer ambient temperature but... I can see your motivation here for moving; I suppose it is worth a try?
    That is a reasonable guess. You should indeed aerate (oxygenate) the wort prior to pitching the yeast.

    So in summary I rescind my prior comment; make the move since it is worth a try for this particular instance.

    Cheers!
     
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  7. roadk01

    roadk01 Initiate (0) Dec 31, 2015 Michigan

    Thanks Jack
     
  8. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    You are welcome.

    Please keep us informed on how your fermentation progresses.

    Cheers!
     
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  9. roadk01

    roadk01 Initiate (0) Dec 31, 2015 Michigan

    Well so far no signs of fermentation going on 48 hours. Should I throw out and start again or try and re pitch? I obviously screwed something up big time.
     
  10. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    48 hours is too early to throw in the towel or maybe even to repitch. But have you taken a hydrometer reading?
     
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  11. roadk01

    roadk01 Initiate (0) Dec 31, 2015 Michigan

    I haven't since I took the OG reading but I don't see any Krausen in the fermenter so I'm thinking it's not fermenting.
     
  12. DrMindbender

    DrMindbender Initiate (0) Jul 13, 2014 South Carolina

    From your picture above, it looks like much of the yeast is at the bottom of the carboy...give your carboy a good swirling for a minute or so to resuspend the yeast and it might help it take off. I ferment around the ambient temps in my house as well and have had a few batches that were slow to start recently in around the 65 range as well. Give it time and just relax...yeast can sense your anxiety :wink:
     
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  13. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    There's one way to find out.
     
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  14. roadk01

    roadk01 Initiate (0) Dec 31, 2015 Michigan

    Thanks Dr, I did swirl it around a few hours ago. I'll check later tonight and in the morning.
     
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  15. roadk01

    roadk01 Initiate (0) Dec 31, 2015 Michigan

    Well still no visible yeast activity. I've tried everything suggested on here and even added some yeast nutrients last night and swirlied it around. I'm heading out to get a thief so I can check the gravity to see if it's fermenting with no outward signs and I'll get some additional yeast to pitch if it's not and re pitch to see if I can jump start it. Question, at what point does it make sense to just toss this batch and start over? It has been almost 3 days in the fermenting carboy.
     
  16. DrMindbender

    DrMindbender Initiate (0) Jul 13, 2014 South Carolina

    If you have another fermenter around and have a batch ready to go, then I wouldn't dump it just yet personally. If you need your fermenter for the next batch, then once you check the gravity and the need is immediate, I'd dump it. Does it smell bad/infected? Have you thought about pitching some dry yeast to try to get things going?

    Patience grasshopper!!!

    Dont be so quick to call it a failure and want to throw the beer out...do you have a batch in the kettle RIGHT NOW and need that fermenter? If not, just chill and see what happens for a week or so.
     
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  17. roadk01

    roadk01 Initiate (0) Dec 31, 2015 Michigan

    Thanks Dr,
    I don't have an immediate need for the fermenting vessel so I can leave it a while. I was under the impression that if the wort didn't begin fermenting after a few days the beer quality would suffer greatly.

    I've had so little experience I don't know what smell indicates a bad or infected batch. I will repitch with some dry yeast today and see if I can kick start it.

    Thanks!
     
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  18. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    As long as you practiced proper sanitation the wort can sit in your primary for many days. The specific number of "many" is not specifically determinant since it is dependent on exactly how well you sanitized which can not be readily quantified.

    Cheers!
     
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  19. Brew_Betty

    Brew_Betty Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2015 Wisconsin


    Take a hydrometer reading. This will tell you if there has been any fermentation.
     
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  20. roadk01

    roadk01 Initiate (0) Dec 31, 2015 Michigan

    Hey BB,

    Well I've taken a hydrometer reading and it hasn't changed since I filled the primary. 1.054. I re pitched with dry yeast and added some more yeast nutrient at 3:35 EST. I take it the yeast clock starts over again with the dry yeast pitched?
     
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