Homebrew Hop Pairing

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  1. HelloMyNameIsHuman

    HelloMyNameIsHuman Aspirant (257) Mar 6, 2017 New Hampshire

    I have an all Mosiac IPA kit that I will be brewing shortly. I have some cascade and Colombus hops I am thinking about adding to the boil. Possibly Columbus at the beginning to help bitter and cascade towards the end for aroma. Anyone have any tips on pairing those 3 ?
     
    #1 HelloMyNameIsHuman, Jul 17, 2017
  2. loebrygg

    loebrygg Initiate (0) Jun 4, 2016 Norway

    Columbus as bittering and flameout, Cascade for flavour and aroma
     
    #2 loebrygg, Jul 17, 2017
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  3. HelloMyNameIsHuman

    HelloMyNameIsHuman Aspirant (257) Mar 6, 2017 New Hampshire

    And like I said mosiac throughout the 60 min boil
     
    #3 HelloMyNameIsHuman, Jul 17, 2017
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  4. loebrygg

    loebrygg Initiate (0) Jun 4, 2016 Norway

    Don't forget to dry hop with all tree :wink:
     
    #4 loebrygg, Jul 17, 2017
  5. HelloMyNameIsHuman

    HelloMyNameIsHuman Aspirant (257) Mar 6, 2017 New Hampshire

    This is also a small one gallon batch so I don't want to over due it with the bitterness
     
    #5 HelloMyNameIsHuman, Jul 17, 2017
  6. jbakajust1

    jbakajust1 Pooh-Bah (2,552) Aug 25, 2009 Oregon
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    Mosaic and Columbus will be good together.
     
    #6 jbakajust1, Jul 17, 2017
  7. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    Then use 1/2 as much CTZ (Columbus) for bittering and all the Mosaic late and DH
     
    #7 GreenKrusty101, Jul 17, 2017
  8. HelloMyNameIsHuman

    HelloMyNameIsHuman Aspirant (257) Mar 6, 2017 New Hampshire

    I also have a good amount of cascade
     
    #8 HelloMyNameIsHuman, Jul 17, 2017
  9. Ten_SeventySix_Brewhouse

    Ten_SeventySix_Brewhouse Zealot (744) Jul 20, 2016 Indiana

    I rather like Columbus as a late/dry hop. Most people recommend it as a bittering hop, but if you like dank citrusy flavors, try it late.

    My other comment would be that I've been underwhelmed by Mosaic lately, but I do like the tropical flavors it brings. I'd consider using it in a supporting role rather than making it the star of the show.

    Not sure what the Cascade would bring that you won't get from the others. Pretty citrusy. Couldn't hurt if you wanted to throw it in.

    I recently did an IPA with Moasic and Comet, which is similar to Columbus, and really am digging the result. Equal additions of each in the late boil and dry hop additions, bittered with Comet.
     
    #9 Ten_SeventySix_Brewhouse, Jul 17, 2017
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  10. GormBrewhouse

    GormBrewhouse Pooh-Bah (2,111) Jun 24, 2015 Vermont
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    Good suggestions for a bitter beer, I would reverse it for less bittering. Columbus adds a lot of flavor/dankness at flame out and dry hopping.
     
    #10 GormBrewhouse, Jul 17, 2017
  11. HelloMyNameIsHuman

    HelloMyNameIsHuman Aspirant (257) Mar 6, 2017 New Hampshire

    Thanks for all the tips, my main concern is when to add these hops( I am a home brew rookie) the kit I have is a single Hop mosiac so I have a good amount, a good amount of cascade and about half Columbus when compared to the other two. I don't want to over bitter it but I do like a dank juicy hoppy beer
     
    #11 HelloMyNameIsHuman, Jul 17, 2017
  12. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    There are a lot of possibilities, but for a 1 gal batch, I'd just keep it simple and see whether you like the Mosaic.
     
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  13. GormBrewhouse

    GormBrewhouse Pooh-Bah (2,111) Jun 24, 2015 Vermont
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    Cascade@ 60 Columbus @ flame out, then again after ferment is complete, generally I dry hop for 3-7 days. You'll have to brew another batch and experiment to see what is your favorite
    Have fun
     
    #13 GormBrewhouse, Jul 17, 2017
  14. EvenMoreJesus

    EvenMoreJesus Initiate (0) Jun 8, 2017 Pennsylvania

    I'd advise to just use the Cascade and Mosiac in this beer and leave the CTZ for another, less fruity, more West Coast style beer.

    Depends on the total amount of hops that you are planning on using, but if you're not looking for a lot of bitterness (a la NEIPA), you don't have to use any hops in the boil at all. Just add a big post-boil addition and a healthy dry hop.
     
    #14 EvenMoreJesus, Jul 17, 2017
  15. HelloMyNameIsHuman

    HelloMyNameIsHuman Aspirant (257) Mar 6, 2017 New Hampshire

    I was planning on using the mosiac through out the boil , and adding the cascade towards the end , when you say post boil are you talking about when the flame is off (sorry rookie brewer here )
     
    #15 HelloMyNameIsHuman, Jul 17, 2017
  16. EvenMoreJesus

    EvenMoreJesus Initiate (0) Jun 8, 2017 Pennsylvania

    Yep. I add most, if not all, of my kettle hops at around 180F during cooling. This preserves a lot more hop oils without isomerizing alpha acids and causing increased bitterness.

    If you'd like some reading on it, I can post a link or two.
     
    #16 EvenMoreJesus, Jul 17, 2017
  17. HelloMyNameIsHuman

    HelloMyNameIsHuman Aspirant (257) Mar 6, 2017 New Hampshire

    That would be great thank you , would you still do a 60 min boil even if you are waiting towards the end to add the hops ?
     
    #17 HelloMyNameIsHuman, Jul 17, 2017
  18. EvenMoreJesus

    EvenMoreJesus Initiate (0) Jun 8, 2017 Pennsylvania

    I still do for concentration and protein coagulation. If you're not adding any hops during the boil, you can just boil until the the hot break and then cool, though. Here's some decent reading on whirlpool additions:

    https://www.homebrewersassociation....-boilwhirlpool-hop-additions-bitterness-beer/
     
    #18 EvenMoreJesus, Jul 17, 2017
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