Homegrown Hops 2018

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  1. jmdrpi

    jmdrpi Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,989) Dec 11, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    How are everyone's hops doing now that Spring has sprung?

    Here in Southeastern PA, they came up a week or so ago and now I need to cut them back. The two in the foreground are Cascades, the back two are Nugget - all are 5+ years old. The Cascades are always more vigorous in growing and production.

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  2. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    I need to cut mine back. My transplanted Chinook plants are coming up, but the centennial are coming in huge. Ugh.
     
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  3. OldBrewer

    OldBrewer Maven (1,385) Jan 13, 2016 Canada (ON)

    How do you plan to measure the resultant bitterness?
     
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  4. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    Hahahahahaha. Ahem.... seriously?
     
  5. jmdrpi

    jmdrpi Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,989) Dec 11, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    I usually am using Cascade for aroma/flavor additions late in the boil or dry hop so I dont worry too much about that. I use the Nugget for both aroma and bittering so I just use the standard AA numbers in the BeerSmith software.
     
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  6. OldBrewer

    OldBrewer Maven (1,385) Jan 13, 2016 Canada (ON)

    Of course. How else can you prepare a recipe? Unless, as jmdrpi says, you are only using it for flavor/aroma hops, or experiment with different batches each year until you get it right. I grew my own hops for about 20 years, but gave up on them because the bitterness in the beer varied, and I had to toss some of the experimental batches.
     
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  7. Granitebeard

    Granitebeard Zealot (549) Aug 24, 2016 Maine

    Well now that it isn't getting below 32 degrees here in Maine, I have finally started a long haul of planting.... I plan to have pictures in the next few weeks but as of right now, I have 55 of 146 plants in pots/plastic pots, waiting for the final touches on my yard.
     
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  8. GormBrewhouse

    GormBrewhouse Pooh-Bah (2,111) Jun 24, 2015 Vermont
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    Nothing yet, my field is in a cold micro climate so it will b a few more weeks.

    @OldBrewer measure bitterness by experiment , of course, or at least that is what I do. I'm not going to send them to a lab cause they are mine and not for sale.
     
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  9. chavinparty

    chavinparty Zealot (653) Jan 4, 2015 New Hampshire

    If you use them as late addition or dryhops in an ipa it wouldn’t matter so much but I can see how t could be frustrating with a low ibu beer using boil additions
     
  10. Granitebeard

    Granitebeard Zealot (549) Aug 24, 2016 Maine

    The University of Vermont does testing on hops for $35 per sample for a generic "brewing characteristics I believe. You need a 200 gram or something sized sample, dry them to their requirements, and pretty much over night them too them. Depending on how much you typically harvest, this might not be to crazy if you want to know. Where I am going to have a crap load of hops, I plan to do this for at least a few of my samples.
     
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  11. Lukass

    Lukass Pooh-Bah (2,891) Dec 16, 2012 Ohio
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    I planted some Chinook at my mom's 2 years back, and am expecting a large harvest this year – last year's was fantastic for being so young.

    Centennial, cascade and columbus are all on their 4th year in my yard, but I don't have high hopes... The soil is too compact, clay-like and isn't well drained enough for them to really thrive. I also kind of just let mine go every year, but this year I'm going to try harder to care for them. They get plenty of sun, so I've narrowed it down to shitty soil. I topped them off yesterday with some peat/manure mixture, and worked it in. Hoping that, along with watering regularly, helps.
     
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  12. OldBrewer

    OldBrewer Maven (1,385) Jan 13, 2016 Canada (ON)

    The hops like any kind of vegetable waste. So just dump your kitchen waste around the hops, especially over the winter. If you plan to grow several different varieties of hops, make sure that they are in different parts of your garden. I grew mine close together and eventually I couldn't tell which hops were which. They send out runners that can travel many feet underground. Mine grew as tall as about 34 feet (I attached a rope from the ground to the top of the chimney around which they spiraled). I think the story about Jack and the Beanstalk is all wrong. Beans don't grow that tall, but hops certainly do. Jack's beanstalk was likely a hopstalk :-)
     
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  13. jmdrpi

    jmdrpi Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,989) Dec 11, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    My soil has a lot of clay, so for my hops (and vegetable gardens) I built raised beds. For the hops I put each one in a 2'x2' square made from 2"x10" boards. I filled with a mixture of topsoil, sand, compost, and manure.
     
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  14. GormBrewhouse

    GormBrewhouse Pooh-Bah (2,111) Jun 24, 2015 Vermont
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    Digging in very old back mulch with a touch of lime will losses up your soil over time. Compost and manure is great. I use all 3
     
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  15. jmdrpi

    jmdrpi Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,989) Dec 11, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    I am surprised you found that big of a change in AA from year to year? Commercial companies like YCH for Nugget give a range of 13.5% to 16%. For Cascade they give 5.5% -9% which would be a bigger variation if you were using for bittering.

    Did your variations typically result in more or less bitterness than expected?
     
  16. jmdrpi

    jmdrpi Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,989) Dec 11, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    146 plants?! I assume you are starting a hobby farm?
     
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  17. OldBrewer

    OldBrewer Maven (1,385) Jan 13, 2016 Canada (ON)

    I think it depends a lot on the amount of sunshine, rain and other factors during each year such as when they are harvested, how they are dried, stored, etc.. I sometimes found that the Cascade hops seemed more bitter than I expected. I grew Cascade, Nugget and Hallertau. I mostly used the Cascade and Nugget for bittering and the Hallertauer for flavour/aroma.
     
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  18. Lukass

    Lukass Pooh-Bah (2,891) Dec 16, 2012 Ohio
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    I saw those in your photo, that looks/sounds like a great idea. Thanks for that. I'm guessing it's still early enough to carefully dig out the rhizomes and transfer to something like this, right? My bines really haven't started climbing yet
     
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  19. Lukass

    Lukass Pooh-Bah (2,891) Dec 16, 2012 Ohio
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    My cascade, cbus and centennial all mix together, so I always just say it's a 3C blend :wink:

    We have a huge compost area in the back, so will be dumping some of that on them for sure!
     
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  20. jmdrpi

    jmdrpi Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,989) Dec 11, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    As an amateur gardener, I would think so. As with any transplanting plant, I would prune them back and keep well watered to help with the shock of moving. If your rhizomes are as huge as the ones I have, I wouldn't be too worried.
     
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