Honey Mint Ale

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  1. BeerKangaroo

    BeerKangaroo Initiate (0) May 30, 2011 Alaska

    Only recently I was talking with another BA concerning the possibility of making a "honey mint ale" as I have a friend that would like to work with me to possibly make this beer. Yes, we're looking to make a true beer that would have the aroma and taste of "honey" and "mint." Though I have some experience homebrewing but sometimes feel like an amateur by reading some of what the rest of the homebrewing BA's we have on this forum, I'm looking for some advice as if this could actually work. My friend and I are looking to keep the ABV on this guy fairly low to ensure it will stay as a beer.

    Thoughts? I'll entertain anything.

    Thank you in advance.
     
  2. JohnSnowNW

    JohnSnowNW Initiate (0) Feb 6, 2013 Minnesota

    Pretty much all you need is some honey malt, and some mint leaves. The amount would depend on the rest of your grain-bill.

    I guess it would something like this:

    Golden Promise 95%
    Honey Malt 5%
    Mint ???
    Magnum @ 60...(neutral hop)

    Mash @ 154°

    That would be the easiest way, but there are certainly many, many more options.
     
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  3. FATC1TY

    FATC1TY Pooh-Bah (2,564) Feb 12, 2012 Georgia
    Pooh-Bah

    I'd say keep it like a blonde, hopped pretty low, and something light.

    Maybe:

    2 row
    carapils
    honey malt

    Use some northern brewer or something like that, it has this slight woody evergreen mint nose to it. Would work great to keep the hops backed, but still give you some bitterness.

    How much honey malt you want.. well thats up to you.

    I'd personally think that #1 of the stuff in the grist would be over the top honey flavor if thats what you want. I'd dry to get the beer down as low as possible FG wise, as well.
     
  4. BeerKangaroo

    BeerKangaroo Initiate (0) May 30, 2011 Alaska

    Thanx, also, I was thinking and probably should have mentioned this since I've never tried this, do you think if I add too much honey it could end up drying out the mint leaves and not have any "mint" at all? Sorry, if I sound skeptical of my friend's idea, but figured I could get some great insight from the homebrewing Vets on here.
     
  5. CurtFromHershey

    CurtFromHershey Initiate (0) Oct 4, 2012 Minnesota

    Bottle carb with honey. Stick to honey malt otherwise if you don't want it too dry. No clue about the mint. Never thought about it in a beer
     
  6. BeerKangaroo

    BeerKangaroo Initiate (0) May 30, 2011 Alaska

    Ok, that sounds good, and I guess was kind of leaning towards the possibility of the "American Blond Ale" style. I was suggested by another BA to go the 2 row, and carapils.

    Yeah, at the moment, I have to admit, I'm slightly afraid of the "honey malt" as I was told from my friend that he has 5 lbs of real honey and instead of blowing the idea off and my inexperience with "honey ales" I was hopefully reassuring myself that maybe some other BA's can probably back me up with saying 5 lbs for a 5 gallon batch would be way too much, right?
     
  7. Homebrew42

    Homebrew42 Initiate (0) Dec 20, 2006 New York

    I don't know what you mean by "drying out the mint", but replacing malt with simple sugars like honey will definitely dry out the beer, and the more you use the greater the effect will be, obviously.
     
  8. BeerKangaroo

    BeerKangaroo Initiate (0) May 30, 2011 Alaska

    Honey malt, ok, I didn't know, Thanx. Sigh, hmmm...now I'm unsure what to tell my friend what to do with his 5 lbs of honey, yikes.
     
  9. FATC1TY

    FATC1TY Pooh-Bah (2,564) Feb 12, 2012 Georgia
    Pooh-Bah

    I think he's talking about real honey..

    We're talking about honey malt.

    If you use the honey in the boil, you'l pretty much just be adding expensive good sugar.. Wont get much honey flavor.

    Honey malt on the other hand.. you'll get tons of honey sweetness from it.
     
  10. JohnSnowNW

    JohnSnowNW Initiate (0) Feb 6, 2013 Minnesota

    Using actual honey will not give you any "honey" characteristics in the final beer, but as others have stated it will dry it out.
     
  11. BeerKangaroo

    BeerKangaroo Initiate (0) May 30, 2011 Alaska

    Yes, that's what I meant. Sorry, for miscommunicating that. Thanx.
     
  12. Homebrew42

    Homebrew42 Initiate (0) Dec 20, 2006 New York

    I've made beers (probably better classified as braggots) with this much honey or more (as much as 50% of the gravity coming from honey). They were always great, and in fact I'm a huge fan of them, but they're always light bodied and dry.
     
  13. BeerKangaroo

    BeerKangaroo Initiate (0) May 30, 2011 Alaska

    Ok, thanx man, I think that's what I was looking for.
     
  14. Homebrew42

    Homebrew42 Initiate (0) Dec 20, 2006 New York

    This is not true, the sugar in the honey ferments out but the aromatics in good quality honey definitely come through in the final product if some care is taken. This assumes you're using a good quality raw honey in sufficient quantity, you're treating it gently and you're not clobbering it with hops. I've made many many braggots and meads through the years and its not difficult to get a good honey character to come through.
     
  15. OddNotion

    OddNotion Pooh-Bah (1,915) Nov 1, 2009 New Jersey
    Pooh-Bah

    If you will be using honey, do not boil it at all.
     
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  16. BeerKangaroo

    BeerKangaroo Initiate (0) May 30, 2011 Alaska

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't braggots high ABV-ed?
     
  17. Homebrew42

    Homebrew42 Initiate (0) Dec 20, 2006 New York

    To the OP, I think you can both appease your friend by using his honey (at least some of it) and make a fine beer in the process. I would recommend doing something like this"

    50% Maris otter
    25% Honey
    10% Caravienna
    5% Honey malt
    Bittering hop at 60 min to 10 IBUs
    English ale yeast

    You're on your own with the mint.
     
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  18. Homebrew42

    Homebrew42 Initiate (0) Dec 20, 2006 New York

    Braggots can be whatever ABV you want them to be, I've brewed braggots with ABVs ranging from 5% to 12%.
     
  19. Jay_Ulreich

    Jay_Ulreich Initiate (0) Jan 15, 2014 Indiana

    make mead with it. you can age it for a long time, plus that means you get to brew 2 different things with your friend

    edit: do what Homebrew42 said!
     
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  20. BeerKangaroo

    BeerKangaroo Initiate (0) May 30, 2011 Alaska

    I was hoping to use some good quality honey but then started getting afraid of the fermentable sugars. I'm just trying to understand the best possible way of going about this and couldn't find much from any other research elsewhere.
     
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