Hop relocation

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  1. Granitebeard

    Granitebeard Zealot (549) Aug 24, 2016 Maine

    So I am going to get my hops rhizomes soon and am having a hard time picking where to put them. Do I build a fence now and leave them there? Or do I run some string up the side of my falling over garage and let them spend a few years there and move them when I take it down?

    How easy is it to dig up and move the hops once they have been planted?
     
  2. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    If you are not sure where you want them to go, you could grew in a large container the first year. It will make transplanting easier. Bear in mind, the first year of growth is typically a low harvest year. By transplanting you probably will not get optimal growth the second year, either, but at least your rhizome will have a chance to get more robust in year 1.
     
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  3. mikehartigan

    mikehartigan Maven (1,421) Apr 9, 2007 Illinois

    Plant them anywhere you like. In a few years, you'll have more than enough rhizomes that you can start a whole new crop elsewhere. And who knows? With enough demand at $4 a pop, you can probably even pay for a new garage! :wink:
     
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  4. InVinoVeritas

    InVinoVeritas Initiate (0) Apr 16, 2012 Wisconsin

    Hops are an invasive. If you are not sure where you want them, I 100% agree with @pweis909; put them in a pot 1st year and than decide. Even if you know final location, consider a raised bed for containment. On the other hand, if you have a ton of land, who cares; disregard my feedback entirely.
     
  5. GormBrewhouse

    GormBrewhouse Pooh-Bah (2,111) Jun 24, 2015 Vermont
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    I like the idea of hops growing over the garage,,,, as long as you can safely get the hops off the roof. I had some going over an old greenhouse frame once. Sold the frame a few years later, planted some poles and all was well.
     
  6. wspscott

    wspscott Pooh-Bah (1,958) May 25, 2006 Kentucky
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    My garage roof gets hot enough that the hops would not spread or grow there.
     
  7. GormBrewhouse

    GormBrewhouse Pooh-Bah (2,111) Jun 24, 2015 Vermont
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    Maybe up the side toward the peak!?
     
  8. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    This was the reason I suggested a container. They might be hard to eradicate if they grow where you don't want them, so make sure you like the location before you commit. I also like the raised bed idea and think I might try this approach if I ever decide to return to hop growing. But the truth is, I'd rather buy hops and grow tomatoes. There are only two things money can't buy -- true love and homegrown tomatoes.
     
  9. wspscott

    wspscott Pooh-Bah (1,958) May 25, 2006 Kentucky
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    Now I'm going to go to bed with that song in my head :slight_smile:
     
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  10. rocdoc1

    rocdoc1 Savant (1,215) Jan 13, 2006 New Mexico

    Hop rootballs get very big. This is a Cascades root I had to dig up andmove after 5 years, in an adult sized lawn chair. [​IMG]
     
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  11. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    Homegrown hops are just like homegrown tomatoes. Serious.
     
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  12. Granitebeard

    Granitebeard Zealot (549) Aug 24, 2016 Maine

    I am going to go with 3 large containers, maybe 6 I will have to see what I get looks like, and go up the side of my garage. It is an old two story post and beam barn really, so I think I will be safe on the height. Once things settle as far as what is happening, I can get them in the ground.

    Would of replied sooner, but forgot about this after a crazy fast business trip.
     
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  13. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    Also, raised beds won't contain my centennials. I have to maintain the crown, prune back runners, and manage the hell out of my two plants.
     
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  14. Granitebeard

    Granitebeard Zealot (549) Aug 24, 2016 Maine

    And here I will have 3+ and already ordered 2 Bullion to be sent to me from England next spring.
     
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  15. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    Just be diligent, if you stay on top of hops they stay contained. If you let them do their own thing they can get out of control quickly.
     
  16. GormBrewhouse

    GormBrewhouse Pooh-Bah (2,111) Jun 24, 2015 Vermont
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    @SFACRKnight we in the NE can not grow hops like you guys in CO. My brothers centennial hops were 30 feet and super heavy with cones, same with Columbus. I routinely reach 15-17 feet but nowhere near the yeild.
     
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  17. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    I thought 15ft poles would work for me. Wrong. My one plant went to the top, turned around, and came down another 20ish feet. Whoops.
     
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  18. Granitebeard

    Granitebeard Zealot (549) Aug 24, 2016 Maine

    Just got them. I ordered three packs, and each pack ended up having three little twigs in it. The look bigger online, :astonished: I feel like that is an odd thing to say...

    Gotta work on getting my pots ready. Any tips of planting them as far as a soil mix?
     
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  19. mikehartigan

    mikehartigan Maven (1,421) Apr 9, 2007 Illinois

    Plant them wherever you have dirt. In a few years, they'll be wherever you want them to be. And everywhere else, too. I've found them popping up 30' from where I originally planted them a few years ago. They'd probably be all over the yard if I didn't cut the grass weekly.
     
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  20. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    @Granitebeard I used a planters mix from my local landscape company that is:
    60% top soil
    20% sterilized steer manure
    20% compost
    All of my raised beds and half barrels were filled with this originally, the hops love it. Every spring I top dress them all with about three inches of compost, and once they start really climbing I top dress the crowns biweekly with an organic garden fertilizer. The only other suggestion I have is if you use raised beds allow the natural soil to be in direct contact with the soil in the bed. If there is a barrier then worms can't come in and eat up all the compost.
     
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