Hop Stoopid - most underrated?

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  1. sacrelicio

    sacrelicio Initiate (0) Feb 15, 2005 Minnesota

    I'm sure you can tell.
  2. surfcaster

    surfcaster Champion (821) Apr 20, 2013 North Carolina
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    I think it's because the label is the most un-appitizing label I've ever seen in my life.[/quote]

    I am a huge Lagunitas fan, and would drink their stuff in a plain white can, but I agree with you on the label here. It is out of character with their other offerings and easy to overlook. Too bad--I think they could sell more but they have so many good hoppy offerings anyway.
  3. KingforaDay

    KingforaDay Defender (665) Aug 5, 2010 New Jersey
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    Tony reads these threads, let's not put any ideas in his head.
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  4. Chaaaarlieeee

    Chaaaarlieeee Initiate (50) Nov 23, 2012 Rhode Island
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    Whatever it is that they use, it makes all of their hoppy beers taste the same across the board. No diverse flavors whatsoever. I'll pass.
  5. TheBigEast

    TheBigEast Initiate (0) Oct 21, 2004 New York
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    Hey Tony - if you're reading this, don't make us look stoopid by having to look like a goof trying to read the date. Please make it clear as hell on the bottle. Cheers!
  6. DarkDragon999

    DarkDragon999 Aspirant (285) Feb 13, 2013 Rhode Island

    I'd rather have Victory Helios for my 'best bang for your buck beer" but thats just me.
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  7. CassinoNorth

    CassinoNorth Disciple (308) Apr 5, 2013 New Jersey
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    Pliny isn't much better.
  8. DarrenStory

    DarrenStory Initiate (0) Feb 11, 2013 Oregon
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    I think it's actually the nicest label in my fridge right now.

  9. ElderPuma

    ElderPuma Initiate (0) Jul 27, 2012

    And I'd bet that if reviewed blindly it would score much higher, but you know, it isn't rare enough, or hard to get, or expensive so it must be garbage.
  10. Durge

    Durge Poo-Bah (2,503) May 22, 2007 Connecticut

    The fact that it's a relatively widely distributed and well known craft brew, and probably somewhat a victim of it's super friendly price, this great hop brew gets passed more than it should. I'm guilty of it as well. You can never go wrong with it in your fridge but you will typically overlook it while searching for something less commonly available and less known. This is a good reminder for us all to go stock up. You know it's out there somewhere nearby!
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  11. phooky

    phooky Aspirant (214) Jan 23, 2010 New York

    Thanks for the reminder- I'll be picking some up tomorrow (assuming I can find it fresh)
  12. TheBrewo

    TheBrewo Initiate (0) Nov 11, 2010 New York

    One of my all time favorite DIPAs... Would definitely take this over some of the top 50.
  13. MCain04

    MCain04 Zealot (585) Jan 3, 2013 Texas
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    Sucks > Hop Stoopid >>> Most DIPAs
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  14. TychoNDC

    TychoNDC Disciple (395) Jan 7, 2013 Colorado
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    The first rule of Hop Stoopid is you do not talk about how good Hop Stoopid is. The second rule of Hop Stoopid is...
  15. DrStiffington

    DrStiffington Meyvn (1,083) Oct 27, 2010 New Jersey
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    I think you can't go wrong with either one. My two favorite cheap bombers, but two different tastes.
  16. PaulQuinn

    PaulQuinn Initiate (68) May 27, 2011 British Columbia (Canada)

    When I visited Lagunitas (and did the tour) they were bottling it, so I had the chance to drink a bottle straight out of the bottling line. What a fantastic day.
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  17. Spikester

    Spikester Poo-Bah (1,826) Jul 14, 2007 Oregon

    good, more for me!
  18. YamBag

    YamBag Initiate (190) Feb 2, 2007 Pennsylvania

    Sounds like someone just picked up 4 fresh bombers at WF
  19. DanE

    DanE Disciple (328) Feb 24, 2012 Connecticut

    I kind of agree. But it is good. Sometimes I get a toasted grain flavor in the after taste that is a slight turn off for me. So I drink it pretty fast. If I could get it at $4.99 a bomber here in Hartford, I would buy it more regularly.
  20. Hanzo

    Hanzo Initiate (0) Feb 27, 2012 Virginia

    I'm a huge fan. Price wise (at least in the bomber world) it is an absolute steal.
  21. ncstateplaya

    ncstateplaya Initiate (0) Nov 8, 2008 North Carolina

    Its hard to knock it. Great price, easy to come by, tastes delicious...what's not to like. It just doesn't receive all the hype, because like people have said...its cheap, can find it nearly anywhere, and its still damn tasty!
  22. Benny3000

    Benny3000 Initiate (0) Apr 4, 2012 Michigan
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    While i do like Hop Stoopid, I am a bigger fan of Little Sumpin Sumpin. Laguinitas is the best brewery for the price. I find myself taking their beers for granted as they are always available. I need to change that.
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  23. Kadonny

    Kadonny Meyvn (1,259) Sep 5, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    Not really. To me it's a "good" beer, but far from overrated. I'll take Maximus any day over it.
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  24. nc41

    nc41 Poo-Bah (1,527) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    Agree it has to be fresh as well, like most super hoppy brews. Can't beat the price point.
  25. mnbuffalo

    mnbuffalo Aspirant (235) Jul 26, 2012 Michigan
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    There it is.... For the last year I've been on a quest to try as many celebrated IPA/IIPAs as I can get, and still have Lawson's, HF(Going to VT in 3 weeks), Societe, Citra, and Fuzzy Ducks remaining on my personal list. I especially love Jai Alai, Abrasive, SOSUS, and Pure Hoppiness, but I feel there is mystique to limited bottles that people crave that probably diminishes the true value of a Hop Stoopid. Are my personal favorites really better? Is a Dreadnaught at $12 a better value sitting next to a Hop Stoopid? I don't know who wins between those two in a blind test.

    Look at what people are asking for right now for a BA Mexican Cake. I got caught up in the CA BA Huna hype and probably overpaid on one of my two bottles on a trade that wasn't with a long-term trading partner. I learned my lesson and am going to let others pay a premium to get in the BA MC hype.

    My point is, I think the post I quoted nailed it, price and availability probably diminish Hop Stoopid's value in the eyes of many. Good chance it would have a higher BA score if you had to travel to the brewery or trade a 4 pack of Surly per bomber.
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  26. otispdriftwood

    otispdriftwood Defender (637) Dec 9, 2011 Colorado
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    I've always liked Hop Stoopid but I am curious as to why the label is so different from all other Lagunitas' labels - no dog, no pithy sayings, etc.
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  27. JohnQ

    JohnQ Initiate (0) Jul 7, 2012 California

    I been wanting to have one since it has been awhile and as mentioned the price is VERY reasonable.But I don't know the format of the date coding.
  28. dobe12

    dobe12 Initiate (0) Dec 3, 2011 New Jersey

    Couldn't agree more!
  29. cavedave

    cavedave Poo-Bah (2,441) Mar 12, 2009 New York
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    I love reading the anti hop extract comments from folks who probably don't realize Hill Farmstead and Alchemist, and many other of the top IPA producers, use hop extract for better bittering addition. They also probably don't realize that these brewers make their own hop extracts to their own specs, something a whole lot more skillful than buying hops and dumping them in.
  30. BrettHead

    BrettHead Devotee (479) Sep 18, 2010 Nebraska

    The look on my friends face after he got to try a drop of the pure hop extract at Lagunitas was priceless!
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  31. mfnmbvp

    mfnmbvp Poo-Bah (2,397) Nov 28, 2012 Illinois
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    I have to admit that I agree with you: most of their hoppy beers tend to have the same hop flavor. However, Hop Stoopid was one of the first DIPA's I ever tried, so there will always be a soft spot for it in my belly. And at $5 a bomber, you can't beat that shit.
  32. KingforaDay

    KingforaDay Defender (665) Aug 5, 2010 New Jersey
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    It's the yeast they use that creates similar profiles in all their IPA's/DIPA's. I happen to like them all but if you don't like one there's a chance you won't like any of them.
  33. Chaaaarlieeee

    Chaaaarlieeee Initiate (50) Nov 23, 2012 Rhode Island
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    Thanks for the clarification, sir.
  34. KingforaDay

    KingforaDay Defender (665) Aug 5, 2010 New Jersey
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    Just happened to read that fact last night in Tony's book "The Lagunitas Story". He said all his beers used to taste like nothing no matter how much he dry hopped, until they changed the yeast they used and he actually agrees with those that say all Lagunitas Hoppy Beers have a similar taste.
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  35. teraflx

    teraflx Zealot (551) Feb 4, 2013 Arizona

    I agree. I grabbed one that was about 6 weeks old at a local store and it was nothing like a fresh one I got on vacation one time. Very malty compared to the fresh one.
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  36. CassinoNorth

    CassinoNorth Disciple (308) Apr 5, 2013 New Jersey
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    Sorry, I just disagree. I think it adds to the amazing lure of the actual beer that it's such a plain jane label with IMO hideous colors. No flashy Zombies or silver cans calling you a dbag. Just a simplistic label letting you know what the beer is.
  37. hardy008

    hardy008 Poo-Bah (1,969) Jan 12, 2008 Minnesota

    I love this beer. I suspect it is not a top 50 DIPA because it lacks the taste of rarity.
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  38. DrStiffington

    DrStiffington Meyvn (1,083) Oct 27, 2010 New Jersey
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    Haha. After reading this thread I just had to go out and buy a bomber each of Helios And Hop Stoopid since it's been awhile since I've had either.
  39. nickapalooza86

    nickapalooza86 Initiate (0) Feb 23, 2010 Wisconsin

    Love the beer, just never really grab it because I prefer Maximus so much more... Maximus is 8.89 in 6ers and Hop Stoopid Is 3.99-4.39 a bomber so it is a no brainer. My Lagunitas DIPA ratings are as follows

    Maximus 4.88
    Sucks 4.75
    Hop Stoopid 4.49

    I bet you are happy you know that now!:wink:
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  40. jamvt

    jamvt Disciple (391) Aug 5, 2005 Massachusetts
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    I've thought this about almost all Lagunitas beers, but I still tend to enjoy them. Just a little cloying.
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